Vegas Free-for-All - American Ebola patient flew a Frontier Airlines flight only two days ago

American Ebola patient flew a Frontier Airlines flight only two days ago

pjstroh

Oct 15, 2014
9:40pm

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

Hmm, . . .
DonDiego thinks the problem here is that there just isn't enough Government.

Not enough big government was at the heart of Don Diego's Ebola complaint when he posted the (below) quoted, panic-stricken conspiracy on the other Ebola thread. Unfortunately, his sarcastic threads appear to contradict each other. Just another day at LVA

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
This is exactly how Ebola will find its way into the United States, . . . except there's no fence.

pjstroh

Oct 15, 2014
9:46pm

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Once again, PJ, I did not warn against a million American's dying of Ebola, but instead asked a question. Here is my entire post that you refer to.

"If there is a 1/1000 chance that bringing these people to American will kill 1,000,000 people, should we do it?"

I'm now curious to hear why PJ won't answer this question.

Precisely, you're asking people for policy opinions based upon a completely fabricated chance scenario of a run-away breakout whereby a million people become infected. Is that how intelligent policy is created? Maybe on the Sean Hannity show.

Boilerman

Oct 15, 2014
10:30pm

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At what risk point for importing Ebola would PJ decide that it's too risky?

It's very likely that a Liberals unwillingness to consider all risk makes Liberals unsuitable for managing such projects. The modern Liberal mindset apparently prevents one from considering all possibilities.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Once again, PJ, I did not warn against a million American's dying of Ebola, but instead asked a question. Here is my entire post that you refer to.

"If there is a 1/1000 chance that bringing these people to American will kill 1,000,000 people, should we do it?"

I'm now curious to hear why PJ won't answer this question.

pjstroh

Oct 15, 2014
11:40pm

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
At what risk point for importing Ebola would PJ decide that it's too risky?

Too risky for what?

When informed doctors and scientists tell me its too risky (for whatever Boilerman is suggesting) I'll heed their advice - not that of Sean Hannity or the ghost of Andrew Breitbart or Boilerman who categorically make things up (like trying to tell the world Ebola is airborne).

I get my medical information from doctors. I get my climate science data from scientists. Boilerman gets his data on both of these topics from the same people who gave us the birth certificate scandal.

alanleroyII

Oct 16, 2014
12:19am

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
At what risk point for importing Ebola would PJ decide that it's too risky?

Of course doctors and scientists are not infallible. If they were, Dr. Tom Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control would not have stated that Ebola can be safely treated in any private hospital room in America just two weeks ago...and the CDC would not be "RETHINKING' their approach to Ebola.

Doesn't PJ agree that when dealing with a contagious virus that is killing 70% of its victims we should 'error on the side of caution'? You know that not all doctors and scientists agree with allowing unrestricted travel from Ebola hot spots to the USA, right?

What is the cost of preventing those 200 people a day from West African Ebola infection zones from entering the USA until they are proven safe (Ebola Test or Quarantine)? What is the potential cost and probability of allowing additional infected victims into the USA? This should be a no brainer, but for some reason it isn't. Probably for the same reason so many mistakes have already been made.

snidely333

Oct 16, 2014
12:22am

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
At what risk point for importing Ebola would PJ decide that it's too risky?

Too risky for what?

When informed doctors and scientists tell me its too risky (for whatever Boilerman is suggesting) I'll heed their advice - not that of Sean Hannity or the ghost of Andrew Breitbart or Boilerman who categorically make things up (like trying to tell the world Ebola is airborne).

I get my medical information from doctors. I get my climate science data from scientists. Boilerman gets his data on both of these topics from the same people who gave us the birth certificate scandal.

World War Z becomes more prophetic by the day.

Boilerman

Oct 16, 2014
12:38am

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PJ is dodging again, I see. I'll give you a specific series of examples and you tell me if this would create too great a threat to bring an Ebola patient into the US.

1) If bringing in an infected Ebola patient to the US was evaluated by top doctors, and they concluded that this situation created a 1/10th of 1% risk of leading to a US outbreak involving 1 million Americans, does PJ believe we should bring this infected man to American?

2) If not, how about 1/10th of 1% possibility of 10,000 Americans being infected?

3) If not, how about 1/10 of 1% possibility of 1000 Americans being infected? If not, how about the reality that we brought in an infected man and this has sickened two Americans who had massive protections against isolating the disease.

4) Now, let's talk about what we are dealing with today. One of the two folks infected INSIDE the US has already been in close contact with an many as 200 unprotected folks. Does PJ believe it was still worth the risk to bring infected Ebola patients to America. or will PJ wait for 2 weeks before coming to a conclusion? Wearing the big boy pants requires one to make a call today.

PJ, you again are proving my point that Liberals are unwilling on all subjects to address difficult issues.

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
At what risk point for importing Ebola would PJ decide that it's too risky?

alanleroyII

Oct 16, 2014
1:04am

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Originally posted by: snidely333

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
At what risk point for importing Ebola would PJ decide that it's too risky?

Too risky for what?

When informed doctors and scientists tell me its too risky (for whatever Boilerman is suggesting) I'll heed their advice - not that of Sean Hannity or the ghost of Andrew Breitbart or Boilerman who categorically make things up (like trying to tell the world Ebola is airborne).

I get my medical information from doctors. I get my climate science data from scientists. Boilerman gets his data on both of these topics from the same people who gave us the birth certificate scandal.

Of course doctors and scientists are not infallible. If they were, Dr. Tom Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control would not have stated that Ebola can be safely treated in any private hospital room in America just two weeks ago...and the CDC would not be "RETHINKING' their approach to Ebola.

Doesn't PJ agree that when dealing with a contagious virus that is killing 70% of its victims we should 'error on the side of caution'? You know that not all doctors and scientists agree with allowing unrestricted travel from Ebola hot spots to the USA, right?

What is the cost of preventing those 200 people a day from West African Ebola infection zones from entering the USA until they are proven safe (Ebola Test or Quarantine)? What is the potential cost and probability of allowing additional infected victims into the USA? This should be a no brainer, but for some reason it isn't. Probably for the same reason so many mistakes have already been made.

World War Z becomes more prophetic by the day.

The Zombie lifestyle might be ok. Seems like a lot of teamwork going on.

pjstroh

Oct 16, 2014
1:19am

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
PJ is dodging again, I see. I'll give you a specific series of examples and you tell me if this would create too great a threat to bring an Ebola patient into the US.

I dodge nothing...I simply admit I am not a medical professional and defer my response to people who are educated experts in the field.

I dont acknowledge your questions because you are not an informed, educated professional in the field and your scenarios are based on your uninformed delusions. Instead of asking questions based on your own inogrance of the topic you should apologize for spreading irresponsible paranoia (like when you falsely make up fairy takes about Ebola being airborne).

Boilerman

Oct 16, 2014
1:34am

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I see, PJ tells us that both PJ and Obama can't take the expectations of scientists with regard to expected risk points and make a decision?

PJ and Obama continue to dodge.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
PJ is dodging again, I see. I'll give you a specific series of examples and you tell me if this would create too great a threat to bring an Ebola patient into the US.

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