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Tutontow
Tutontow
Jul 6, 2014
10:35am
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Originally posted by: drmilled ...Yep Doc you said it all we need to go back to making ALL people accountable for their actions.
Especially those who are born into the middle class, and with all their opportunities, never rise above the middle class. What losers.

Can you imagine; being born into a the middle class with financial security, good schools, two parent families, food on the table, safe streets, strong role models, and opportunities to attend college and beyond...and then just ending up no higher than the middle class? What ever happened to pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps?

Or maybe, just maybe, rising from poverty to the middle class takes as much fortitude, luck, and ability as going from the middle class to wealth. And many of those who think of poor people as irresponsible losers could just as easily be talking about themselves.


Stop it,,,,you are making my heart bleed. You have an uncanny knack for missing the point, either intentionally or by blindness. The statements you wrote just bolsters mine and Docs points. Sometimes even a die hard conservative like Doc brings up a good point and it is not a sin or sign of weakness to agree with him. The same can be said for what is going on in Washington.

chefantwon
chefantwon
Jul 6, 2014
10:54am
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Our last two presidents ranked substantially worse than the only one to resign in disgrace? 16 years of crappy presidents? We need a turnaround guy.
Indeed, prior to the first election of The Obama folks on this Forum discussed the relative experience of the potential candidates in both major parties; The Obama was pretty well recognized to possess the least experience. Elections have consequences.
What with turning Egypt from a Soviet Ally to an US ally, . . . and responsibility for the eventual peace treaties between Israel and Egypt and Jordan, . . . and,especially the negotiation of the petrodollar with Saudi Arabia President Nixon and Secretary of State Kissinger actually accomplished a lot for the United States. It is quite likely all of the benefits of these accomplishments will be gone before The Obama leaves office.


Elections do have consequences.

No president has an unblemished record... But I think the legacy of the current one will be pretty well remembered....killing Bin Laden - really? who did all of the legwork? Clinton?
ending an unpopular war - and of course leaving it to be taken over by a group of terrorists that is worse than AlQueda
leading the country out of the worst recession in 100 years - Gee the 1970's recession was far worse and this one was the greatest?
ending discrimination against the sick - Really, by placing even more people on the government doles?, cutting the deficit by more than 2/3 - of the how many TRILLION he ran up?
and all of this with no help of any kind from the opposing party who not only did not participate but actually tried to shut down the government. - how many bills were brought before the Senate and one Harry Reid refused to allow debate on the Senate floor?

Democrats did not like Ronald Reagan but Tip O'Neil made the effort to find common ground. The current House Speaker says success for him is defined by how much he does NOT do. Those are his words. And he has the least effective Congress in History to prove it
- So the Senate voted on HOW many bills passed by the house?

All this coming from "the most transparent" Presidency ever????




Don
Don
Jul 6, 2014
9:20pm
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pjstroh
pjstroh
Jul 7, 2014
12:13am
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Originally posted by: chefantwon

So the Senate voted on HOW many bills passed by the house?

All this coming from "the most transparent" Presidency ever????


What bills? The 50 bills to repeal the healthcare law? Or did they offer a replacement? Was there a jobs bill I missed? Do tell, chef!

Don
Don
Jul 7, 2014
2:31am
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What bills? The 50 bills to repeal the healthcare law? Or did they offer a replacement? Was there a jobs bill I missed?

As of June 30 2014, . . . . 291 Bills passed by the House of Representatives have been forwarded to the Senate, and the Senate under the leadership of Senator Harry "Pinky" Reid has taken no action. Surprisingly he remains on the Government payroll and receives his salary regularly.

References:
Bill Tracker
Sweetness & Light
drmilled
drmilled
Jul 7, 2014
3:06am
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I find it hard to believe that one asshole-Harry Reid- can keep the whole nation hostage and in limbo with regard to legislation that needs to be acted upon. And PJ, there is the answer to your ignorant question of "What bills?"
forkushV
forkushV
Jul 7, 2014
12:53pm
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Originally posted by: drmilled ...Yep Doc you said it all we need to go back to making ALL people accountable for their actions.
Especially those who are born into the middle class, and with all their opportunities, never rise above the middle class. What losers.

Can you imagine; being born into a the middle class with financial security, good schools, two parent families, food on the table, safe streets, strong role models, and opportunities to attend college and beyond...and then just ending up no higher than the middle class? What ever happened to pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps?

Or maybe, just maybe, rising from poverty to the middle class takes as much fortitude, luck, and ability as going from the middle class to wealth. And many of those who think of poor people as irresponsible losers could just as easily be talking about themselves.


Stop it,,,,you are making my heart bleed. You have an uncanny knack for missing the point, either intentionally or by blindness. The statements you wrote just bolsters mine and Docs points...
Oh gawd, you really are a sucker for fortune cookie wisdom.

drmilled's comment about taking personal responsibility was obviously in support of the despicable belief that individuals should be held responsible for their designated group, as defined by the color of their skin - which is of great significance to drmilled and Boilerman. If that was over your head, I can't imagine what isn't.

BobOrme
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Jul 7, 2014
2:34pm
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Originally posted by: drmilled ...Yep Doc you said it all we need to go back to making ALL people accountable for their actions.
Especially those who are born into the middle class, and with all their opportunities, never rise above the middle class. What losers.

Can you imagine; being born into a the middle class with financial security, good schools, two parent families, food on the table, safe streets, strong role models, and opportunities to attend college and beyond...and then just ending up no higher than the middle class? What ever happened to pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps?

Or maybe, just maybe, rising from poverty to the middle class takes as much fortitude, luck, and ability as going from the middle class to wealth. And many of those who think of poor people as irresponsible losers could just as easily be talking about themselves.


Stop it,,,,you are making my heart bleed. You have an uncanny knack for missing the point, either intentionally or by blindness. The statements you wrote just bolsters mine and Docs points...
Oh gawd, you really are a sucker for fortune cookie wisdom.

drmilled's comment about taking personal responsibility was obviously in support of the despicable belief that individuals should be held responsible for their designated group, as defined by the color of their skin - which is of great significance to drmilled and Boilerman. If that was over your head, I can't imagine what isn't.

It is ObeyMe that believes ALL members of a group, defined by the color of their skin, are not responsible for their life situations. They ALL need help from ObeyMe's government. That is an ideology that ONLY sees the color of someone's skin when placing judgment on every single individual within that group...the judgment being, every one of them needs government help. You can't see, or admit to, the government institutional racism perpetuated by Democrats over the last 50 years.
Dan Svatass
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Jul 8, 2014
8:25am
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Don
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Jul 8, 2014
9:14am
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

Mrs. Claude Simmons is apparently a plagiarist.

According to snopes.com the earliest recorded expression of the "pigeon chess" concept was on March 16, 2005 in a customer review of a book entitled Evolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction on amazon.com :
"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon -- it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."

The more recent version as reported by snopes is:
"Russian President Vladimir Putin has allegedly said that 'negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, craps on the board, then struts around like it won the game.' "
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