Border Insecurity

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Originally posted by: forkushV


DonDiego requests forkushV cite DonDiego's lie.
Once again, another asinine twisting of the main topic by PJ. Reuniting illegal children with their illegal alien parents is wrong. Parents and children should be sent back to Mexico. Obama is and will be held accountable, after all, PJ and the rest of the ignorant liberals elected Obama President - just more of "change you can believe in".
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Originally posted by: drmilled
Once again, another asinine twisting of the main topic by PJ. Reuniting illegal children with their illegal alien parents is wrong. Parents and children should be sent back to Mexico. Obama is and will be held accountable, after all, PJ and the rest of the ignorant liberals elected Obama President - just more of "change you can believe in".


Of course the children should be reunited with their parents. Whether or not they stay in the country is the question.
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Originally posted by: drmilled
Once again, another asinine twisting of the main topic by PJ. Reuniting illegal children with their illegal alien parents is wrong. Parents and children should be sent back to Mexico. Obama is and will be held accountable, after all, PJ and the rest of the ignorant liberals elected Obama President - just more of "change you can believe in".


^^^^^. Case in point. ^^^^^

Remember a few posts ago where I talked about Xenophobes that will make the next GOP candidate take an outrageous position on immigration in 2016. Keep up the good work, doc! Im counting on you!

East Berlin built their wall to keep their people in
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV


DonDiego requests forkushV cite DonDiego's lie.
How about the title of this thread? By measurable metrics, the border is now more secure than it has been in many years.

Breaking the law = good. Enforcing the law = bad...a xenophobic outrageous position.

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
Breaking the law = good. Enforcing the law = bad...a xenophobic outrageous position.

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.
Except when it comes to Cliven Bundy, right Bob? Or YOU, when it comes to signing up for mandated health insurance.

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV


DonDiego requests forkushV cite DonDiego's lie.
How about the title of this thread? By measurable metrics, the border is now more secure than it has been in many years.
DonDiego employed the term "insecurity" in the sense of "vulnerability", . . . the US border with Mexico is vulnerable to being crossed. The border has always been insecure; it remains insecure.

From the original post reference:
"An unusually large number of those crossing in South Texas are unaccompanied children, many seeking to join parents who are already in the U.S. illegally. Authorities arrested 47,017 unaccompanied children on the border from October through May, up 92 percent from the same period a year earlier. A draft Border Patrol memorandum estimates that number could reach 90,000 in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, up from a previous government estimate of 60,000."
"The government has also been flying families from South Texas to Arizona and El Paso, Texas, and releasing them at bus stations. ICE has only one detention facility for families — an 85-bed center in Pennsylvania."

DonDiego suggests that if the number of unaccompanied children arrested reaches 90,000 in FY2014, the border is not secure.
DonDiego suggests if families crossing into Texas are sent to Arizona and El Paso and released, the border is not secure.

And now:
"President Obama on Monday described a surge in unaccompanied immigrant children caught trying to cross the Mexican border as an "urgent humanitarian situation," as the White House asked Congress for an extra $1.4 billion in federal money to cope. Obama said the U.S. will temporarily house the children at two military bases."
Ref: Fox News

Hmm, . . . why would the Government allocate $1.4-billion to house illegal border crossers if the border is secure?

"The Obama administration said Friday [June 6] that it was starting a program to provide lawyers for children facing deportation as it scrambles to deal with the soaring number of unaccompanied minors illegally crossing the border from Mexico."
Ref: New York Times

Providing Government-paid lawyers to illegal immigrants in deportation proceedings is unprecedented. Attorney General Holder is taking the initial $2-million for this effort from funds designated for border security.

DonDiego suggests that if the border were secure the Government would not providing lawyers to unaccompanied minors who have, . . . how shall DonDiego say this, . . . crossed the border illegally.

DonDiego says the US border with Mexico is not secure. If it were secure it would not be necessary to apprehend, feed, shelter, transport, release, and provide lawyers to those who have crossed the border. And that's not even counting the ones that get away!

Oh, and by the way, . . . does forkushV think this is going to turn out well?

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
Breaking the law = good. Enforcing the law = bad...a xenophobic outrageous position.

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.
Except when it comes to Cliven Bundy, right Bob? Or YOU, when it comes to signing up for mandated health insurance.

I'm not in charge of enforcing the law. Obama, Holder, and everyone under them are in charge of enforcing the laws concerning our borders and immigration. They collectively ignore those laws. They reward the people breaking those laws. You and other libs support it/them. You not only support it, you, at least by proxy of supporting policy, encourage it. Most of the children flooding over the border recently aren't even from Mexico. They are from Central America. Mexico has very strict southern border containment, so the only way all of these children can even be getting to Mexico's northern border is through an agreement between the Mexican government and the Obama administration. This is all intentional. And you support it.

You can try to equate a rancher in Nevada being defiant of government regulations that affect him and his family's ability to make a living, to the tacit and sometimes active approval by Obama's federal government (he has even called it "my government") to what is an invasion by tens of thousands of illegal immigrants on our southern border. They are not anywhere close to being morally equivalent.

I couldn't sign up for ACA. I don't make enough money.
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