Equality

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Originally posted by: jatki99
"And no, the umpires don't necessarily have to be racist, they just have to live in America. It comes with the territory. "

See? Exactly my point again. Judge, jury, and executioner. More of the "all knowing, all judging..etc. etc.". God, it must feel good to know so many absolutes.Racist calls in baseball?, by a margin of 10%!? So for example, Japanese umpires would call these differently?This is getting pretty comical.
Calm down, I'll try to clear it up for you.

1. Black MLB pitchers didn't get the benefit of extra called strikes the way white pitchers did in 2008 and 2009, according to a study published in a peer reviewed journal. (see above)

2. I don't believe the umpires are racist.

3. My guess is the bias comes from living in the US, in other words, living around too many people like Boilerman and jatki.

Is that better?
Forkie, who did the peer review? As an X baseball pitcher, I understand that a control pitcher gets the "benefit of the doubt" more often than a power pitcher. Think of Greg Maddux vs Araldis Chapman. Did the peer study examine what percentage of each group (blacks and whites) were control pitchers? I suspect not.

Pitchers who complain and argue with umpires are their own worst enemy. Do we know which group complains more?

I want answers about our National Pastime, Forkie, and you need to deliver.



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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
"And no, the umpires don't necessarily have to be racist, they just have to live in America. It comes with the territory. "

See? Exactly my point again. Judge, jury, and executioner. More of the "all knowing, all judging..etc. etc.". God, it must feel good to know so many absolutes.Racist calls in baseball?, by a margin of 10%!? So for example, Japanese umpires would call these differently?This is getting pretty comical.
Calm down, I'll try to clear it up for you.

1. Black MLB pitchers didn't get the benefit of extra called strikes the way white pitchers did in 2008 and 2009, according to a study published in a peer reviewed journal. (see above)

2. I don't believe the umpires are racist.

3. My guess is the bias comes from living in the US, in other words, living around too many people like Boilerman and jatki.

Is that better?


I see Forkie is still dodging the difficult questions. He responds with blah, blah, blah, dodge, dodge, dodge.
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Forkie, who did the peer review? As an X baseball pitcher, I understand that a control pitcher gets the "benefit of the doubt" more often than a power pitcher. Think of Greg Maddux vs Araldis Chapman. Did the peer study examine what percentage of each group (blacks and whites) were control pitchers? I suspect not.

Pitchers who complain and argue with umpires are their own worst enemy. Do we know which group complains more?...
The uppity ones?


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Originally posted by: jatki99
51, I didn't want to clog up a lot of space by quoting your entire post, but this is response to the small part you asked about.

Both of these statements show EXACTLY what I was referring to when I posted about those who claim to know who is a bigot/racist or not,Forky does the same sh!t as well,It just gets really old.

Taken from a quote off BM's response to chili-I do appreciate his candor, however. Lots of racists learn to conceal that affliction so that it has to be inferred. Boilerman's upfront about it.

Taken from 51's post-Chilcoot is right, at least this psycho says it loud and proud instead of pointing fingers and screaming "RACE BAITING!!". He is at least a partially honest monster.


"black people are bad employees because of the color of their skin"
That is okay, freedom of speech.

"I think that is racist"
Not okay, in fact "utterly,absolutely unadulterated egotistical bullshit".

1. There are people on this board that believe is is perfectly acceptable to say vile hate filled racist things.

2. There are also people here that think it is okay to point out what they view as vile hate filled racist things.

3. Then there are the people that think it is out of line to call out obviously racist posters.

4. People that have no comment on the subject.

In my opinion 1 and 3 are pretty much the same thing. Just one man's opinion, freedom of speech.





Still dogdging I see.

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Forkie, who did the peer review? As an X baseball pitcher, I understand that a control pitcher gets the "benefit of the doubt" more often than a power pitcher. Think of Greg Maddux vs Araldis Chapman. Did the peer study examine what percentage of each group (blacks and whites) were control pitchers? I suspect not.

Pitchers who complain and argue with umpires are their own worst enemy. Do we know which group complains more?...
The uppity ones?


If my comments are racist, why must you make up lies to make your point? You're still dodging my questions.


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Originally posted by: Number51
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Originally posted by: jatki99
51, I didn't want to clog up a lot of space by quoting your entire post, but this is response to the small part you asked about.

Both of these statements show EXACTLY what I was referring to when I posted about those who claim to know who is a bigot/racist or not,Forky does the same sh!t as well,It just gets really old.

Taken from a quote off BM's response to chili-I do appreciate his candor, however. Lots of racists learn to conceal that affliction so that it has to be inferred. Boilerman's upfront about it.

Taken from 51's post-Chilcoot is right, at least this psycho says it loud and proud instead of pointing fingers and screaming "RACE BAITING!!". He is at least a partially honest monster.


"black people are bad employees because of the color of their skin"
That is okay, freedom of speech.

"I think that is racist"
Not okay, in fact "utterly,absolutely unadulterated egotistical bullshit".

1. There are people on this board that believe is is perfectly acceptable to say vile hate filled racist things.

2. There are also people here that think it is okay to point out what they view as vile hate filled racist things.

3. Then there are the people that think it is out of line to call out obviously racist posters.

4. People that have no comment on the subject.

In my opinion 1 and 3 are pretty much the same thing. Just one man's opinion, freedom of speech.


I'm a racist because I have observed that there are more blacks in the NBA than whites? Apparentlly making observations such as this gets you guys riled up............although the observations are accurate.

I've never said that skin color has anything to do with work ethic or abilities. You're making stuff up, you leap to inaccurate conclusions, and I can only speculate why.


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Originally posted by: Boilerman
If my comments are racist, why must you make up lies to make your point? You're still dodging my questions.


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Originally posted by: Number51
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Originally posted by: jatki99
51, I didn't want to clog up a lot of space by quoting your entire post, but this is response to the small part you asked about.

Both of these statements show EXACTLY what I was referring to when I posted about those who claim to know who is a bigot/racist or not,Forky does the same sh!t as well,It just gets really old.

Taken from a quote off BM's response to chili-I do appreciate his candor, however. Lots of racists learn to conceal that affliction so that it has to be inferred. Boilerman's upfront about it.

Taken from 51's post-Chilcoot is right, at least this psycho says it loud and proud instead of pointing fingers and screaming "RACE BAITING!!". He is at least a partially honest monster.


"black people are bad employees because of the color of their skin"
That is okay, freedom of speech.

"I think that is racist"
Not okay, in fact "utterly,absolutely unadulterated egotistical bullshit".

1. There are people on this board that believe is is perfectly acceptable to say vile hate filled racist things.

2. There are also people here that think it is okay to point out what they view as vile hate filled racist things.

3. Then there are the people that think it is out of line to call out obviously racist posters.

4. People that have no comment on the subject.

In my opinion 1 and 3 are pretty much the same thing. Just one man's opinion, freedom of speech.



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Originally posted by: Boilerman
.....You're making stuff up, you leap to inaccurate conclusions, and I can only speculate why.


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Originally posted by: Boilerman


Maybe they are Heterophobic?
Well first let me say I am WASP. When I worked at Sears Warehouse the blacks overall were the better workers. When it came to delivery I almost always got back on time when I worked with a black person. The white guys tended to milk it because they wanted the overtime.

In the warehouse they could fly on the lift trucks compared to us whiteys. I remember vividly at the end of just about everyday they would be pissed of because they would be done pulling their orders and they would have to come over and bail out the white guys because they were behind.

This is all based upon my own personal observation with no scientific study to back it up.

In the fire service it really didn't matter if you were red, yellow, green, black or white, we all were true pros and everyone measured up or you never made it off of probation, after all lives are at stake. Also the odds of promotion were so great everyone tried to excel.
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