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If we had a LEADER

forkushV

Oct 9, 2013
2:13pm

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Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker

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Originally posted by: malibber2
It is always interesting seeing how different prospective can be. I'd label Obama as centrist that leans slightly to the right or perhaps a corporatist that leans slightly to the right. That is certainly where his polices have been. that is why it seems so bizarre to me that the righties call him a socialist or even a communist. From a logical look at the facts point of view it makes no sense. I'd also agree with Tutontow that he comes up short in the leadership department. It seems to me he always overcompensates because he is trying to avoid being the "angry black man" and wants to be liked.

WOW, I can't believe you think he "overcompensates to avoid being the angry black man" you have got to be kidding. He is the most arrogant leader our country has ever seen. And for his leadership and gaining respect, you just need to check in with the leaders of the other countries in the world. They play him as a school child playing a "man's" game of leading his country.

Wow, within just one paragraph you got synonyms for "uppity" and "boy."

marcisdave

Oct 9, 2013
3:34pm

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Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker

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Originally posted by: malibber2
It is always interesting seeing how different prospective can be. I'd label Obama as centrist that leans slightly to the right or perhaps a corporatist that leans slightly to the right. That is certainly where his polices have been. that is why it seems so bizarre to me that the righties call him a socialist or even a communist. From a logical look at the facts point of view it makes no sense. I'd also agree with Tutontow that he comes up short in the leadership department. It seems to me he always overcompensates because he is trying to avoid being the "angry black man" and wants to be liked.

"Most arrogant leader our country has ever seen" ?

You have got to be f$#@ing kidding me !

That title would go to the 43rd president of the United States.......Dick Cheney !

hoops2

Oct 9, 2013
11:21pm

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If obama is slightly right; who is slightly left?

hoops2

Oct 9, 2013
11:45pm

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"Democrats already have 100% of the funding for Obamacare.
So, again, what are you offering them they dont already have?

Outside the context of a shutdown I'd be willing to play. Democrats in Washington would have my blessing to delay the unenforcable insurance mandate ....in exchange I want the Federal Minimum wage raised to $10. Deal?"

Why won't the democrats agree to abide by the same healthcare law that the rest of the country has to abide by?

pjstroh

Oct 10, 2013
12:09am

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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Democrats already have 100% of the funding for Obamacare.
So, again, what are you offering them they dont already have?

Outside the context of a shutdown I'd be willing to play. Democrats in Washington would have my blessing to delay the unenforcable insurance mandate ....in exchange I want the Federal Minimum wage raised to $10. Deal?"

Why won't the democrats agree to abide by the same healthcare law that the rest of the country has to abide by?

Um..maybe because they are. Go visit the "Unaffordable healthcare act thread" where I provided a Factcheck.org (oops, I mean Bill Ayers) link that debunked your claim.

hoops2

Oct 10, 2013
1:07am

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"Um..maybe because they are. Go visit the "Unaffordable healthcare act thread" where I provided a Factcheck.org (oops, I mean Bill Ayers) link that debunked your claim. "

Originally we (Factcheck) declared Vitter’s assertion to be wrong since any company can decide to help pay for policies that its workers purchase on the exchange so allowing representatives and staff to do so would not be an “exemption.” That notion has been challenged by conservative critics of Obamacare who argue that under existing federal statutes Congress had to specifically pass legislation authorizing the premium subsidies for any insurance program other than FEHBP. Since congress did not do this, the administration, at the behest of Congressional Democrats, and, according to Politico, Speaker John Boehner, unilaterally extended premium contributions. By doing this, the critics argue, the administration “exempted” Congress from the law

Another example of obama making changes to the law that Congress didn't approve. Apparently only obama can make changes not the elected body who actually has the constitutional authority.

The House has passed a bill eliminating this exemption but the senate won't take a vote

pjstroh

Oct 10, 2013
2:40am

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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Um..maybe because they are. Go visit the "Unaffordable healthcare act thread" where I provided a Factcheck.org (oops, I mean Bill Ayers) link that debunked your claim. "

Originally we (Factcheck) declared Vitter’s assertion to be wrong since any company can decide to help pay for policies that its workers purchase on the exchange so allowing representatives and staff to do so would not be an “exemption.” That notion has been challenged by conservative critics of Obamacare who argue that under existing federal statutes Congress had to specifically pass legislation authorizing the premium subsidies for any insurance program other than FEHBP. Since congress did not do this, the administration, at the behest of Congressional Democrats, and, according to Politico, Speaker John Boehner, unilaterally extended premium contributions. By doing this, the critics argue, the administration “exempted” Congress from the law

Another example of obama making changes to the law that Congress didn't approve. Apparently only obama can make changes not the elected body who actually has the constitutional authority.

The House has passed a bill eliminating this exemption but the senate won't take a vote

Conservative critics have all kinds of entertaining accusations of the administration. My personal favorite was his fake birth certificate. Of course, if they truly believe something illegal is being done by the administration they can follow the proper channels and challenge it. See the Great Obama IRS Scandal, for an example.

When it comes to who has more insight into what is legal and illegal Hoops will have to forgive me if I choose to side with Federal Courts instead "conservatrive critics"

jatki

Oct 10, 2013
4:32am

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker
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Originally posted by: malibber2
It is always interesting seeing how different prospective can be. I'd label Obama as centrist that leans slightly to the right or perhaps a corporatist that leans slightly to the right. That is certainly where his polices have been. that is why it seems so bizarre to me that the righties call him a socialist or even a communist. From a logical look at the facts point of view it makes no sense. I'd also agree with Tutontow that he comes up short in the leadership department. It seems to me he always overcompensates because he is trying to avoid being the "angry black man" and wants to be liked.

WOW, I can't believe you think he "overcompensates to avoid being the angry black man" you have got to be kidding. He is the most arrogant leader our country has ever seen. And for his leadership and gaining respect, you just need to check in with the leaders of the other countries in the world. They play him as a school child playing a "man's" game of leading his country.

Wow, within just one paragraph you got synonyms for "uppity" and "boy."

Only in your own mind forkie just because you love to try and sniff shit like that out where no one else in the world did(except now that you said it), that's cool. I still find it really cute you keep it up or else you wouldn't be forkie. It's only when you get something correct(which isn't very often) I get concerned

forkushV

Oct 10, 2013
6:28am

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Originally posted by: jatki99

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker
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Originally posted by: malibber2
It is always interesting seeing how different prospective can be. I'd label Obama as centrist that leans slightly to the right or perhaps a corporatist that leans slightly to the right. That is certainly where his polices have been. that is why it seems so bizarre to me that the righties call him a socialist or even a communist. From a logical look at the facts point of view it makes no sense. I'd also agree with Tutontow that he comes up short in the leadership department. It seems to me he always overcompensates because he is trying to avoid being the "angry black man" and wants to be liked.

WOW, I can't believe you think he "overcompensates to avoid being the angry black man" you have got to be kidding. He is the most arrogant leader our country has ever seen. And for his leadership and gaining respect, you just need to check in with the leaders of the other countries in the world. They play him as a school child playing a "man's" game of leading his country.
Wow, within just one paragraph you got synonyms for "uppity" and "boy."

Only in your own mind forkie just because you love to try and sniff shit like that out...

Sniff? Wrong sense, it's hearing. It's called Dog Whistle Politics. It's a way of using coded words to appeal to extremists without turning off the moderates. Probably some mouth breather said it on the AM radio, or even on Fox, and then pecker repeated it here, knowingly or not.

The most famous instance of dog whistle politics was the "Southern Strategy," which used words and phrases like busing and "states rights" to appeal to racists. The head of the Republican Party apologized for it to the NAACP in 2005.

jatki

Oct 10, 2013
7:10am

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Aww, you just get cuter and cuter my friend. Dog whistle politics,sheesh.

J

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