Nevada Governor signs $1.3 billion tax break package for electric car maker Tesla

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Tesla is still a car for wealthier people.

Most people are worried about the following with an electric car:

1. Range. It probably isn't a car you can travel on vacation with, so you will probably need a car that takes gas.
2. Time to recharge (not just like filling the tank up) 90 seconds at a station
3. Electric usage at house and bill.much cheaper per mile than gasoline
4. Cost at recharging stationsfree
5. Lack of recharging stationscovered from my house to anywhere west of Salt Lake City accept the stretch from Vegas to Salt lake
6. Limited batter life and price to replace such battery

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Originally posted by: malibber2
I am eagerly awaiting for Don Diego to announce his boycott of Nevada.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
The whole point of subsidies is to prop up new technology until it becomes profitable on its own. Subsidies becomes "sleazy" IMO when they are given to companies that don't need them. Interesting to note how Boilerman defends special tax breaks given to companies like Exxon and then blasts the ones given to companies like Tesla. But I've already pointed that out 100X before so ....whatever. I'm sure all those high paid workers in NV are going to feel so ashamed.

On another note its interesting to see how almost every major auto manufacturer is either already producing electric vehciles or has some on the horizon....and other companies like GE are building out stations to recharge those vehicles. This is no longer science fiction - its happening. And All those hilarious jokes made by our resident conservatives about green energy cars suddenly don't seem so funny. No worries - they laughed at the Wright Brothers too. Amazing what happens when scientists and engineers (helped by the government) can show us what is possible vs uninformed ideologues.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
The whole point of subsidies is to prop up new technology until it becomes profitable on its own. Subsidies becomes "sleazy" IMO when they are given to companies that don't need them. Interesting to note how Boilerman defends special tax breaks given to companies like Exxon and then blasts the ones given to companies like Tesla. But I've already pointed that out 100X before so ....whatever. I'm sure all those high paid workers in NV are going to feel so ashamed.

On another note its interesting to see how almost every major auto manufacturer is either already producing electric vehciles or has some on the horizon....and other companies like GE are building out stations to recharge those vehicles. This is no longer science fiction - its happening. And All those hilarious jokes made by our resident conservatives about green energy cars suddenly don't seem so funny. No worries - they laughed at the Wright Brothers too. Amazing what happens when scientists and engineers (helped by the government) can show us what is possible vs uninformed ideologues.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
And All those hilarious jokes made by our resident conservatives about green energy cars suddenly don't seem so funny. No worries - they laughed at the Wright Brothers too. Amazing what happens when scientists and engineers (helped by the government) can show us what is possible vs uninformed ideologues.

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Originally posted by: chefantwon

Where are those stations PJ? I'm sure you have hundreds in the Indy metro area.....or not.

Until the infrastructure is built, the cars won't be mainstream and that means high prices.

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
And All those hilarious jokes made by our resident conservatives about green energy cars suddenly don't seem so funny. No worries - they laughed at the Wright Brothers too. Amazing what happens when scientists and engineers (helped by the government) can show us what is possible vs uninformed ideologues.

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i. For the record, DonDiego did not laugh at the Wright brothers.

ii. Oh, and the Wright brothers did not receive Government assistance. All the early aviation experiments were financed by the Wright Cycle Company of Dayton, Ohio.
Ref: National Park Service

iii. Their first flight was in December 1903. For several years they negotiated with European Governments and the US Government for funds to support test flights or to purchase an aircraft to be developed. No Government would provide funding until the brothers had sufficiently proven the capabilities of their machine.

Example: a January 1905 response from The War Department to the Wrights via their Congressman
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Hon. R. M. Nevin, etc.

My dear Sir:

Referring to your letter of the 21st instant to the Honorable Secretary of War inviting attention to the experiments in mechanical flight conducted by Messrs. Wilbur and Orville Wright, which has been referred to the Board or Ordnance and Fortification for action, I have the honor to inform you that, as many requests have been made for financial assistance in the development of designs for flying machines, the Board has found it necessary to decline to make allotments for the experimental development of devices for mechanical flight, and has determined that, before suggestions with that object in view will be considered, the device must have been brought to the stage of practical operation without expense to the United States.

It appears from the letter of Messrs. Wilbur and Orville Wright that their machine has not been brought to the stage of practical operation, but as soon as it shall have been perfected, the Board would be pleased to receive further representations from them in regard to it.

Very respectfully,

G. L. Gillespie,
Major General, General Staff
President of the Board

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The first US Government contract was issued in December 1907 for a completed aircraft meeting designated performance specifications. The test flights did not go well, . . . including one in which Orville Wright suffered broken bones and his passenger Lt Selfridge was killed. After 3 extensions to their contract the Wrights delivered the airplane a year late.
Ref: wifcon.com


iv. Whether poor old DonDiego is uninformed remains too be determined.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: chefantwon

Where are those stations PJ? I'm sure you have hundreds in the Indy metro area.....or not.

Until the infrastructure is built, the cars won't be mainstream and that means high prices.

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You're so right. And there weren't many airports in 1902. I'm glad our government and society put money behind technology instead of listening to people like you. We'll rinse and repeat for the next generation of transportation....but not without a lot of the same kicking and screaming from the same minded folks. Aint America great?

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