ObamaCare NOT working as planned

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Those who deleted the evidence are put in charge of investigating itself, and PJ is comfortable with this? I've spoken with two IT guys regarding the disappeared emails, and both said that the only way all of the info could have disappeared with by systematic destruction. Then, while the investigations are proceeded, to have the archives destroyed at the 3rd party company?

It's obvious, PJ knows that there's a cover up and PJ doesn't care.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
There is no evidence because:

1. The IRS didn't keep back up paper emails (as called for by policy).

2. The IRS didn't keep their emails on the PC's.

3. The IRS didn't keep the emails on Server #1.

4. The IRS didn't keep the emails on Server #2.

5. The IRS didn't keep the emails on Server #3.

6. The IRS had the company archiving emails destroy them all.

If you believe all of those things were coincidence, you're nuts. It'll eventually be proven that this was a massive cover up, yet Liberals won't care.




Ah...Obama is guilty because of information that Boilerman does not have and cant articulate. boom! Case closed.

The official investigation ended long before Darryl Issa's desperate fishing expedition for Lois Lerner's emails....but if thats what you are hanging your hat on you should realize that emails have a receiver as well as sender. If obama was getting incriminating emails from Lois Lerner there will be a record of them in his computer. But by the time that fact has dawned on the birthers they will have long surpassed this conspiracy and moved onto the next.

And in the meantime we should note how our resident conservatives are completely mum on the real IRS scandal of 2006



do these IT guys work for the same company as your Buddy Pete? Im an IT guy, BTW...and email can be configured to archive in any one of a 100 ways so unless your buddies work for the IRS they are uninformed.

I care about facts and you dont have any. You played this same exact game with Bengazhi for 18 months swearing there was a cover up...and when all the facts manifested themselves you simply packed up and moved onto the next conspiracy. Here you are again swearing something illegal happened and Obama covered it up. And you cant say what it was.

There were facts and a full confession in 2006... But you didnt care then. You only care now even though you've got nothing to back up you accusation aside from sour grapes from the election.



Why yes email can be archived many different ways, and of course you are aware of the rules of destroying hard drives and the paper work involved? The IRS is required to save information and yet they lose 2 years of emails AFTER being told to produce them? Of course if they were aware of said missing emails then they lied to congress. Yet PJ thinks everything is hunky dory at the IRS????

PJ forgets one Scooter Libby who was guilty of "perjury" of when he knew of the CIA employee. Yet there are numerous people who are doing the same thing at the IRS and you want to do nothing?
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Originally posted by: chefantwon


Why yes email can be archived many different ways, and of course you are aware of the rules of destroying hard drives and the paper work involved? The IRS is required to save information and yet they lose 2 years of emails AFTER being told to produce them? Of course if they were aware of said missing emails then they lied to congress. Yet PJ thinks everything is hunky dory at the IRS????



I think all violations of protocol should be met the proper disciplinary action. But here's where you (and every right winger) is full of it.
- You claim to know the unscrupulous nature that caused the emails to disappear (you dont)
- You claim to know what the contents of those emails are (you dont)
- You claim to know who they were sent to. (you dont)

The entire conspiracy theory is based upon the three lies above. Lois Lerner purposefully erased her emails that were sent to the president discussing their targeting of conservative groups. And this would be something very easy to prove by simply looking at the received emails of the president. But lets be clear, Darryl Issa does not want the truth about this incident. Its better just to keep the conspiracy going.

Its red meat for the extremists in the GOP base ....and its stand up comedy for everyone else.

PS - At some point the people chasing the Loch Ness Monster should explain why the president ordered Lois Lerner to target liberal groups too. Thats a massive hole in their fairy tail.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
And this would be something very easy to prove by simply looking at the received emails of the president.

Now you're talkin' let's subpoena the President's E-mails and get to the bottom of this. Simple.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
[Now you're talkin' let's subpoena the President's E-mails and get to the bottom of this. Simple.

A subpoena is not necessary. After all this is "the most transparent administration in history". DonDiego expects the Obama has his staff collecting the un-redacted pertinent e-mails already.

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
And this would be something very easy to prove by simply looking at the received emails of the president.

Now you're talkin' let's subpoena the President's E-mails and get to the bottom of this. Simple.




Not nearly as simple as making things up
For those who forget, here's the problem we're fixing.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: chefantwon


Why yes email can be archived many different ways, and of course you are aware of the rules of destroying hard drives and the paper work involved? The IRS is required to save information and yet they lose 2 years of emails AFTER being told to produce them? Of course if they were aware of said missing emails then they lied to congress. Yet PJ thinks everything is hunky dory at the IRS????



I think all violations of protocol should be met the proper disciplinary action. But here's where you (and every right winger) is full of it.
- You claim to know the unscrupulous nature that caused the emails to disappear (you dont) ---why are they gone?

- You claim to know what the contents of those emails are (you dont) - we don't know that is why they were demanded to be sent to the committee, to find out IF they was any improper acts going on.

- You claim to know who they were sent to. (you dont) - Again, the emails were demanded to determine what was going on. Who ordered the un fair treatment of Tea Party groups and more importantly, why.

The entire conspiracy theory is based upon the three lies above. Lois Lerner purposefully erased her emails that were sent to the president discussing their targeting of conservative groups. And this would be something very easy to prove by simply looking at the received emails of the president. But lets be clear, Darryl Issa does not want the truth about this incident. Its better just to keep the conspiracy going.

Its red meat for the extremists in the GOP base ....and its stand up comedy for everyone else.

PS - At some point the people chasing the Loch Ness Monster should explain why the president ordered Lois Lerner to target liberal groups too. Thats a massive hole in their fairy tail.


So your suppositions are now debated as you don't know the answers just like anyone else. However IF the situation were reversed, YOU would be the first wanting heads to roll. Like you trust what the IRS has to say????

PJ, why did the IRS, DURING THE INVESTIGATION PERIOD, fire the archive company and order them to destroy all data?

PJ, only a dupe would buy this bull shit. I don't consider you a dupe, however, so one can only conclude that you have come to accept the crooked dealings of this administration. You know this is all bull shit, and you just don't care.


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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Face it Forkie, you don't care if what Obama does is legal or not.





And this ain't about Bush, it's about the whiny dishonest hypocrites who seem to understand executive powers when it's a president they love, but claim that similar actions by President Obama are impeachable.

Okay whiny dishonest hypocrites, please self-identify below!

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
PJ, why did the IRS, DURING THE INVESTIGATION PERIOD, fire the archive company and order them to destroy all data?

PJ, only a dupe would buy this bull shit. I don't consider you a dupe, however, so one can only conclude that you have come to accept the crooked dealings of this administration. You know this is all bull shit, and you just don't care.


Statements of fact dont end with a "?"
But since you think they do here are 2 statements of fact for you:
1) How come the crooked president ordered the IRS to target liberal groups?
2) How come you didn't care when the IRS did it in 2006?
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