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Originally posted by: MoneyLAQuote
Originally posted by: KayPea
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Originally posted by: jatki99
You guys nit pick and micro examine everything about MLA and I really don't understand the big hard on everyone has for him. Like I said, there's some people here wayyyy more annoying to pick on.
There may be people who are more annoying, but none as much fun as MLA to pick on and tease because he can be such as doofus at times.
For example, in this thread he comes up with a great play. When it is pointed out that it still falls a few percentage points below 100% he comes back with that doesn't matter as long as you're playing for high enough stakes. He has been taught, and actually believes, that you can make up for negative expectation games by betting more.
Sometimes it is better to laugh than to cry.
I'm breaking my own promise, because I was immediately emailed about this. What I said is that to the high rollers the small dollar loss probably won't matter. But I also pointed out, and none of you seem to acknowledge this, is that the high rollers get extra free play and extra promotions that can wipe out the small house edge of less than one-half of one percent (not a few percentage points but less than one-half of one percent) on the basic game, and that is even without winning any of the drawings. And I pointed out that with their high level of play they are also able to convert their comp points to free play which means that they will not have to use as much of their own money to play.
Plus, fed's figures on tier points for $50 for 1 point on certain machines is wrong, and I have no idea where he got it. He says VPfree but I play at Rincon and when I was there I asked about it. It certainly does not apply to the $100 single line machines. There are Dream Card machines that give you half-credit for play (there are no points for the "doubled bet" that Dream Card requires), but they took out the $5 Dream Card games and the max denomination now is $1 with 10 lines.
Before you call me a doofus make sure that my information is wrong. In this case it isn't.
With the free play, the added comp points that can be converted to free play, and by being devoted to playing on Tuesdays for triple-points and being there for all of the drawings, a high roller(s) can come close to having a positive return game (if not a definite positive return) and dominate the drawings.
And I'll give some more reasons for how the high rollers can pull this off but the other players can't. Who among us can be sure to play on Tuesdays? I can't -- I have work. Who among us can be sure to be there for every one of the Saturday drawings when $50,000 cash plus $50,000 free play is up grabs? I can't be sure I'll be there every Saturday. High Rollers can. And who can be sure to be there next New Year's Eve for the million dollar drawing? I can't.
Now, if you want to say that you judge the two-million dollar promotion at Rincon not to be a positive play, then fine. But if you had all the numbers (and hopefully you do now) you will see that if it isn't a positive play it comes real close.
But I wanted Bob Dancer to see it, that's why I posted it here. After all Bob calls playing slot machines at South Point facing a 4% edge some kind of advantage play, so something like what Rincon is offering should make him salivate.
This is a promotion that a high roller could figuratively "buy" by having a team that locks up the few $100 single line VP machines in the place, playing on Tuesdays, and making sure they are there the last Saturday of the month for the drawings.
If you don't see it that way, you don't, and you have every right to disagree. But don't call me a doofus, and don't claim that I posted here to drive traffic to my website. I bring in over a million Fing dollars a year, and the traffic that my site got from my post here wouldn't pay for a first class postage stamp -- and I can show you the report from Google Adsense and Google Analytics to prove it.
And why didn't I write it all here first? Because I put it on my own website first. Just as I put the story about Caesars changing the tier levels on my website first.
Argo....
