Support the Cosmopolitan as much as you can

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

I know you're a newbie here, you'll see how things work soon enough.
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Welcome to the boards, ALanLeroy. A/S/L?

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
If the Cosmopolitan workers are unhappy with their pay and benefits, they should quit and go work for a company where they would be happy. If they find their skills don't demand more pay and benefits, then they should work to improve their skills....or do what I did many years ago..quit your job, start a small business...
"Start a small business?" Oh my god, I think I just figured out your vocation. When I read your posts, in that voice, it all just - works!


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Originally posted by: arshaleign
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
If the Cosmopolitan workers are unhappy with their pay and benefits, they should quit and go work for a company where they would be happy. If they find their skills don't demand more pay and benefits, then they should work to improve their skills....or do what I did many years ago..quit your job, start a small business...
"Start a small business?" Oh my god, I think I just figured out your vocation. When I read your posts, in that voice, it all just - works!




Cute.

AlanLeroy is right. I suspect most people who bitch about their employment are too afraid to change it. Being responsible for every aspect of your personal income is not easy, but it is more rewarding than depending on a HR department or union to determine your well being. If you don't like what you are doing to make a living, do something else! Find something you really enjoy doing and figure out a way to make money doing it!

A few examples.

I love music. I learned how to repair musical instrument equipment. I still do that.

I found a live music venue that needed production help with their light systems....learned on the job as an intern and became the house lighting director. That lead to concert promotion. After working production for a couple years, I started booking bands that I liked into the venue.

I used to play a lot of pool. I ran or helped run a couple pool leagues for a few years, then opened my own billiards lounge....sold it (for a profit) because I was working over 100 hours/week between two businesses.

I'm a poker player. When a small casino owner asked me if I wanted to be on their payroll for doing what I was already doing by being a prop player, I said heck yes!

I've been a auto racing fan since I was a teenager. During the infancy of the WWW, racing sanctioning bodies started to open up media suite seats to internet reporters. For three years I went to quite a few different racing events, all out-of-pocket except for media credentials and VIP parking, and posted my work onto the internet. That effort was my resume and I'm now in my 16th year of getting paid to watch fast cars.

Don't pay some union boss to tell your employer what you are worth. Earn it on your own doing what you want to do....or work for a company that is making enough money to pay your wages, benefits and union dues...or work for a company that doesn't think you should be lining the pockets of union bosses who encourage you to break the law and get arrested.
Ya know there's an old saying that fits this whole discussion quite nicely:

"If you continue to do the same things you've always done...then you can expect to get the same results you've always got".

Not one single employer can FORCE you to work for them. It is a CHOICE the employee made.

Chilcoot...seeing you seem to have access to all kinds of "info" could you please post the number of businesses that go bankrupt EACH year. Perhaps, in the spirit of "what's fair"... the unions will help them out with THEIR debts and losses.

As for Bush's "gift" to Deutche Bank...don't blame them (DB)...blame the morons who thought this was a good idea. Hell, if the government offers you OR me a million $$$, I'm pretty damn sure you'd take it... and so would I. If Cosmo goes under...then we'll REALLY see some whining !!

P.S.
Shouldn't this be considered a "political" thread ?? (and therefore removed ??)
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Originally posted by: pearlguy
Perhaps, in the spirit of "what's fair"... the unions will help them out with THEIR debts and losses.
I don't know why you're unaware that unions give concessions all the time to keep their employers in business. It's a well-known phenomenon.

In 2008, unions at GM, Ford, and Chrysler agreed to let the automakers delay contributions to medical funds and suspend a program that paid laid-off workers.

In Wisconsin, unionized teachers recently offered have more money deducted from workers’ paychecks to go toward their pensions and health benefits, translating into a pay cut of around 7 percent.

Unionized workers Bethlehem Steel, United Airlines, Delta Air Lines and US Airways gave up all or most of their traditional pension benefits as well as retiree health benefits in order to keep their employers solvent.

These are just a few of hundreds or thousands of examples of unionized workers cooperating with management by conceding hard-fought benefits. Disappointing that you don't seem to know this.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: pearlguy
Perhaps, in the spirit of "what's fair"... the unions will help them out with THEIR debts and losses.
I don't know why you're unaware that unions give concessions all the time to keep their employers in business. It's a well-known phenomenon.

*** A "phenomenon" I'll give you !

In 2008, unions at GM, Ford, and Chrysler agreed to let the automakers delay contributions to medical funds and suspend a program that paid laid-off workers.

*** Oooo, the union "allowed" the companies to not have to pay the workers who DID NOT WORK for them anymore.

In Wisconsin, unionized teachers recently offered have more money deducted from workers’ paychecks to go toward their pensions and health benefits, translating into a pay cut of around 7 percent.

*** Seriously !?!? They offered to take a 7% paycut... so they could have 7% MORE pension & Health benefits.
How the hell is that a paycut ! That's almost like saying "the unionized teachers took 7% less on their paychecks in order build their personal 'beer fund' by 7%. Good god man, do even read some of this drivel you purport.

Unionized workers Bethlehem Steel, United Airlines, Delta Air Lines and US Airways gave up all or most of their traditional pension benefits as well as retiree health benefits in order to keep their employers solvent.

*** Jesus! They took less $$$ so that the companies would survive and so they could still be EMPLOYED. Seems rather brilliant on their part. DUH!

These are just a few of hundreds or thousands of examples of unionized workers cooperating with management by conceding hard-fought benefits. Disappointing that you don't seem to know this.


*** Gimme a break ! Have you EVER heard of a union going into bankruptcy ??? If they did it was because they forced the company into insolvency and thus NO JOBS and NO UNION DUES !

P.S. Have you checked the salaries of the Auto Union's Leaders ???? (Or any major union's leaders!)

Hmmmm...

American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten – $493,859.
National Education Association President Dennis Van Roekel – $460,060
American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees President Gerald McEntee – $512,489.

Hefty salaries, perks for union leaders raise eyebrows
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — First-class travel. Six-figure salaries for half the 132 officers and staffers. Plenty of plum jobs for family members.
Life is good at the top of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers.
The union, with its headquarters in Kansas City, Kan., represents about 59,000 workers in the U.S. and Canada who make and repair boilers, fit pipes and work on ships and power plants. The recession has hit their trade hard, reducing union membership.
At the same time, the president’s salary has surged 67 percent in the past six years, not counting a recent raise. Add in travel and some other expenses, and Newton B. Jones received more than $600,000 last year.

Sure wish my wages had gone up 67% over the last 6 years !
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Originally posted by: melonhead
Yep, support corporate greed over decent wages and working conditions, right estes? Especially since those pesky Las Vegas unions represent workers of all colors from across the US and the world. Life is tough these days for angry old tea-baggers, isn't it?


The only anger I see is coming from the frustrated union members who decide to sit down in the street when things don't go there way. I see anger coming from you too. When the epithets come out you know a person is angry. There was a guy that used to post on here named indianapaddler that sounds a lot like you...hmmm. Try not to go full-bore racist like he did when his anger reached the tipping point.
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Originally posted by: arshaleign
Some of us like to frequent establishments where, when a server or cook contacts a disease, they have access to affordable health care to diagnose and treat the illness, and if necessary, can take a sick day. That way, we have a much lower chance of having an infectious person handling and breathing upon our food.

estes, if you choose to eat at restaurants that do the opposite, bring plenty of Purell. And you may just get your just desserts anyway.


Most of the restaurants I've eaten at over the years have been non-union. I've yet to get sick from any of them. A lot of people read this forum. Will someone help arsh out here with his wild hypothetical and give a real life example of a time that you got an infectious disease from eating at a non-union restaurant. You must be able to pinpoint that the disease came from said restaurant and know beyond a reasonable doubt that the transmission was due to lack of insurance for the transmitter. Thanks.
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