Support the Cosmopolitan as much as you can

Perhaps if we could get the Cosmo picketers together in a room for a discussion with the former Hostess workers we could solve all this nonsense.
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Originally posted by: pearlguy
Perhaps, in the spirit of "what's fair"... the unions will help them out with THEIR debts and losses.
I just showed you a few of the many famous recent instances where unions gave serious concessions to help businesses out with their debts and losses.

I can't make you see what's right in front of your face if you won't open your eyes.

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Originally posted by: pearlguy
Chilcoot < post pics of the the downtrodden union leaders here>. (Doubt that'll happen !)
I did exactly as you so snottily requested. I guess your eyes missed that too. Really ought to get them checked, pearlguy.

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Originally posted by: esteskefauver
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Originally posted by: melonhead
Yep, support corporate greed over decent wages and working conditions, right estes? Especially since those pesky Las Vegas unions represent workers of all colors from across the US and the world. Life is tough these days for angry old tea-baggers, isn't it?


The only anger I see is coming from the frustrated union members who decide to sit down in the street when things don't go there way. I see anger coming from you too. When the epithets come out you know a person is angry. There was a guy that used to post on here named indianapaddler that sounds a lot like you...hmmm. Try not to go full-bore racist like he did when his anger reached the tipping point.


That's a good point. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Indianapaddler = Melonhead. While I won't declare that all of the Unions are bad, I am delighted to be in a working environment where they are completely unnecessary. Some of the more idiotic members are amusing when they are being interviewed during a strike.

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
I do not deny the right of Labor to Organize or Bargain Collectively
Rats, I was kind of thinking we'd have something to debate. I know you're a newbie here, you'll see how things work soon enough.


Just like I do not deny your right to free speech...whilst not agreeing with much of anything you have to say. Labor should be able to Organize and Bargain Collectively but they don't have to have my agreement or sympathy.

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Originally posted by: arshaleign
Some of us like to frequent establishments where, when a server or cook contacts a disease, they have access to affordable health care to diagnose and treat the illness, and if necessary, can take a sick day. That way, we have a much lower chance of having an infectious person handling and breathing upon our food.

estes, if you choose to eat at restaurants that do the opposite, bring plenty of Purell. And you may just get your just desserts anyway.


That is truly a bunch of crap.
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Originally posted by: EllenMonster
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

I know you're a newbie here, you'll see how things work soon enough.
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Welcome to the boards, ALanLeroy. A/S/L?


Old/Occasionaly/Here right now.
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Originally posted by: arshaleign
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
If the Cosmopolitan workers are unhappy with their pay and benefits, they should quit and go work for a company where they would be happy. If they find their skills don't demand more pay and benefits, then they should work to improve their skills....or do what I did many years ago..quit your job, start a small business...
"Start a small business?" Oh my god, I think I just figured out your vocation. When I read your posts, in that voice, it all just - works!




What's you point? CBG rocks.
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: Just like I do not deny your right to free speach...whilst not agreeing with much of anything you have to say. Labor should be able to Organize and Bargain Collectively but they don't have to have my agreement or sympathy.


Ditto that.

And they will never ever get my sympathy yelling at me when I cross a picket line.

If you don't like the company you work for, move on.
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Originally posted by: pearlguy
Hmmmm...

American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten – $493,859.
National Education Association President Dennis Van Roekel – $460,060
American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees President Gerald McEntee – $512,489.

Hefty salaries, perks for union leaders raise eyebrows
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — First-class travel. Six-figure salaries for half the 132 officers and staffers. Plenty of plum jobs for family members.
Life is good at the top of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers, Iron Ship Builders, Blacksmiths, Forgers and Helpers.
The union, with its headquarters in Kansas City, Kan., represents about 59,000 workers in the U.S. and Canada who make and repair boilers, fit pipes and work on ships and power plants. The recession has hit their trade hard, reducing union membership.
At the same time, the president’s salary has surged 67 percent in the past six years, not counting a recent raise. Add in travel and some other expenses, and Newton B. Jones received more than $600,000 last year.

Sure wish my wages had gone up 67% over the last 6 years !



Ray Irani CEO Occidental Petroleum salary $25 Million. Which covers all the above people's salaries with change left over. Plus the Board of directors get $60,000 plus $2000 for every meeting and stock shares worth between $350,000 to $500,000. Wish I could get 60k plus for just sitting my butt in a couple of meetings, let alone 300k of stock.

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Unionized workers [at] Bethlehem Steel, . . . gave up all or most of their traditional pension benefits as well as retiree health benefits in order to keep their employers solvent.
Umm, . . . too little, too late.


These are the blast furnaces at the Bethlehem Plant today. DonDiego actually worked his way through college at these very furnaces over three Summers, . . . sometimes right there on the tippy-top of the furnaces. Doing manual labor, . . . very manual labor.

To be fair the demise of the United States steel industry over the decades was due to competition from lower cost, . . . in some cases very lower cost, . . . steel plants in Eastern Europe, Asia and even Africa.

Nonetheless, DonDiego did observe the effects of the United Steelworkers (USW) union firsthand.
Many workers did consider "the Steel" to be the enemy of their union. Minor vandalism to Company property was common.
Lots of manufacturing processes could not be modernized because of union opposition. Antiquated work rules led to outrageous and unnecessary expenses; some jobs which could safely be done by one man "required" three men under the old rules, and the union prohibited any change.
After the bankruptcy, many pensions were cut by up to two-thirds, . . . and assumed by the Government.

No matter. It's all gone now.

[n.b. The above comments are not intended to be hateful or "anti-union", . . . just accurate first-hand observations. There is no question that the USW raised costs for Bethlehem Steel. Why, heckfire, poor young DonDiego's laborer wages helped put him through college.]
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