There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

So when does the Govt draw the line at impeding on peoples personal right/libertys? Is it really fair to have peoples right to say they are satisfied with whatever coverage they had before not deemed adequate ,even tho they were perfectly happy with them before taken away,Thereby forcing them to buy something they may not want or be happy with(which may or may not cost more)?

I'm reminded of a parable I learned back in college, do my best to relay it accurately here. Actually I found it and it's attributed to Abe lincoln. I always felt it very thought provoking.

The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of liberty.
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Makes you think a bit, huh?

J

People never at any time "had the right" to keep their insurance plan on their terms. Insurance companies raised rates, changed coverage, and booted customers for decades prior to the ACA. The new law explicitly allowed the insurance companies to grandfather in their old plans. They've largely decided not to continue them.

So did you have a problem with this practice prior to the ACA..or only after?

"So did you have a problem with this practice prior to the ACA..or only after?"

Well PJ, I think there asre parts of the law that are beneficial to the people, I've alway thought thta, what I have a problem with the govt. dictating yet another part of peoples lives. Want a large sugary drink in NYC, nope, sorry, some guy decided it was bad for you. Want to buy a ten rd clip on MD? BZZZT! nope. can't do that. Want to tell a woman what she can and can't do with her body? BZZT again, people are trying to intrude there as well.

There are a hundred more instances and we all know it. It's the part where people are REQUIRED to buy something that is govt sponsored. Practically the entire country will now become dependent on the govt to for yet another piece(subsidy's) of their lives, or go w/o health care. The govt is becoming all-pervasive in our lives, dictating and controling us beyond the realm that is reasonable IMHO. Some like to be coddled, taken care of and told what to do. I don't.

J

Says the unemployed guy on long-term disability who lets taxpayers research and pay for the unbelievably expensive health care that keeps him alive.

Sometimes one has to just pause and stare in wonder.

Perhaps this is more dead on accurate? For all the ones here vehemently denying any faults withe the ACA, I think so.

Careful, someone's knickers might get bunched due to the exaggerated ears.

rut ro The numbers are coming in and less than 50,000 enrolled in Obamacare the first month the goal was 500,000.
https://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303460004579192190709762378

I am guessing most of those in that 50k have high medical needs. linky

I am one who has somehow successfully enrolled into Obamacare. It too well over 100 hours of effort, including about 16 on the phone with incompetents that ALWAYS had to transfer me to supervisors in order to get a straight answer. And whenever I called the insurance company I chose (in my case, Anthem Blue Cross) at the encouragement of the stiffs on the Obamacare "hotline" for more accurate info about what I was buying, I never, after 44 calls, got someone who could answer anything. Calling AMEX in India is much more fulfilling.

I'm in my late 50's, unmarried, and am retired with around $40,000 in income. My previous policy with Anthem BC was cancelled because it in no way met the Obamacare minimums, like pre-existing condition coverage, and such needed coverages for an old single man like maternity and pediatric care. I had been paying $287/mo. with a $1000 deductible and 30% copays. Now, thanks to these innovative government geniuses, my premium is $664, my deductible is$3500, and I still have 30% copays.

My only solace is watching Obama get caught in all his lies, then further hurting himself as he gets caught lying about his lies. It might not strike his few supporters he has left while he's still president, but history will destroy any positive image this fool has, even within the blinded black population.

Everyone's getting what they deserve from our country voting this jerkoff in twice. Maybe now the morons who voted for the guy and who aren't on welfare, food stamps, free phones, living subsidies, or any of those unearned entitlements will have finally learned their lessons from all this.

I'm definitely calling bullshit on this.

No way could a late 50s American male with one or more pre-existing condition buy meaningful health insurance for $287/month in 2013. Either you're just wrong, or the policy was a complete joke and didn't really pay for anything. You kind of hinted its the latter, so I'm guessing it excluded "options" like hospitalization, prescription drugs, and "making albeadle33 better".

Sorry, I don't believe you had anything that could fairly be considered "health insurance", and I have to call you on it.

False. You didn't understand the story.

That's just the number of people who enrolled in private insurance through the federal exchange. You're excluding many thousands who've enrolled through in private insurance through state exchanges and many additional thousands who've enrolled in expanded Medicaid.

There's no question that the enrollment numbers are depressed as a result of the botched federal website. But it's flat false to claim that only 50,000 have enrolled in Obamacare.

You need to read the story again, you don't understand it.