There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

Oh, . . . and here's 999,999 more Californians who've had their health insurance cancelled:
More Than One Million Californians Having Insurance Cancelled Because of ACA

DonDiego hopes forkushV commiserates, at least, with those who do not fly to distant doctors.
We are now hearing whispers that the govt will miss the 11/30 date. Peggy Noonan summarized the excuses as follows

heavy demand caused the website to crash

the website will soon be fixed

every big program has bumps at the beginning

wait till the American people see their benefits!

not that many policies have been cancelled & those that were cancelled were junk

not that many premiums have gone up

not that many people will lose their doctors.

It’s the Republicans fault



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Originally posted by: hoops2
We are now hearing whispers...
You should see your doctor about that. And it's covered by Obamacare!

Congressman Thomas Massie:


Many of you who are familiar with the Constitution have asked me, "How can the Affordable Care Act be legitimate if it is a tax and if it originated in the Senate?" Friday, I joined Rep. Trent Franks (AZ) and other Congressmen in filing an amicus brief in a court challenge to Obamacare based on the origination clause in the Constitution. The case is "Sissel v. U.S. Department of Health & Human Services." The Principal Attorney, Paul J. Beard II, had this to say: “We are grateful for this powerful support from Congressman Franks, a leading authority on the Constitution, and from many other key lawmakers. This support from members of the House is especially significant because PLF's lawsuit defends the constitutional authority of the lower chamber, the legislative body that is closest to the people. We argue that Obamacare was enacted in a way that deprived the House of its authority to ‘originate' new taxation. By extension, taxpayers were deprived of a core constitutional protection against reckless and oppressive use the federal taxing power. The Constitution's requirement that new taxes must start in the House is not a dusty formality. It's an important safeguard for taxpayers, and for care and deliberation in the enactment of new taxes. Because this mandate was violated so flagrantly with Obamacare, and because the individual mandate is so central to Obamacare's structure, our suit argues that the entire law must be struck down.”


Obama and the Senate have been ignoring OUR Constitution since Obama took office. The "what is your plan?" contra to support violating OUR Constitution is not viable. The bloated pile of crap (ACA) shoved down every American's throat is illegal. Occupying oval office does not give the occupant dictatorial powers. No matter how much one might have their nose up Obama's butt due to their own political ideology, being blind to what he is doing to this once great nation can't possibly completely escape them....can it?

After completely uphending the health care industry the end result is moere than 5 million people have lost their coverage and only 100,000 signed up (but have not paid for their plan yet, so the # may be lower).
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
...Obama and the Senate have been ignoring OUR Constitution since Obama took office. The "what is your plan?" contra to support violating OUR Constitution is not viable. The bloated pile of crap (ACA) shoved down every American's throat is illegal. Occupying oval office does not give the occupant dictatorial powers...




Since some people quote the CBO like the Bible; how is their estimate of 500,000 enrollees in the first month working out?
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Since some people quote the CBO like the Bible; how is their estimate of 500,000 enrollees in the first month working out?


I think they came up a little short.
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Since some people quote the CBO like the Bible; how is their estimate of 500,000 enrollees in the first month working out?


I think they came up a little short.


Thats what she told me last nght

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Since some people quote the CBO like the Bible...
I'd never do that. The CBO reports are NON-fiction.
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