There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

Oregon does have one big success to brag about. The state has enrolled 70,000 people in Medicaid, reducing the ranks of the uninsured by more than 10 percent.

WOW 70,000 people signed up for a program that the govt will have to pay 100% of the cost - real success story. Another problem - most doctors don't accept Medicaid.

And another 18,000 have submitted paper applications for private insurance:

I believe these applications eventually have to be entered into the nonfunctioing computer system
Thank You, Don Diego, for explaining the financial consequences of the ACA in the event of nobody signing up...like ever. Lets keep an eye out for that very real possibility.

But help me out here....who picks up the slack for all those uninsured deadbeats in the system that Don Diego wants us to go back to? Was there some mechanism that made taxpayer/policy holders unaccountable? Surely there must have been one or Don Diego wouldn;t be so anxious to go back to it.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Oregon does have one big success to brag about. The state has enrolled 70,000 people in Medicaid, reducing the ranks of the uninsured by more than 10 percent.


Unfortunately nothing is free.

From the DHS Medicaid Actuarial Report:
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Affordable Care Act Impacts
• The Affordable Care Act is projected to increase Medicaid expenditures by a total of $514 billion for 2012 through 2021, an increase of about 9 percent over projections of Medicaid spending without the impact of the legislation. Most of this increase is projected to be paid by the Federal government ($468 billion, or about 91 percent), which would be about 15 percent greater than projected Federal expenditures excluding the impact of the Act.
• The most significant change to Medicaid is the expansion of Medicaid eligibility beginning in January 2014. This expansion is projected to add 8.7million people to enrollment in FY 2014 and 18.3million people by FY 2021—15 percent and 31 percent, respectively, compared to pre- Affordable Care Act estimates. These estimates are based on the assumption that 55 percent of potentially newly eligible enrollees reside in States that would expand Medicaid eligibility in 2014 and that 65 percent reside in States that would expand eligibility in 2015 and later years.
• The expansion and the increase in enrollment of people eligible for Medicaid under current criteria are projected to increase Medicaid expenditures by a total of $448 billion during 2014 through 2021, with the majority to be paid by the Federal government ($388 billion, or 87 percent) due to the higher Federal matching rate provided for expenditures on behalf of newly eligible enrollees.
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Ref: Department of Health and Human Services

DonDiego does not know if the Oregon Medicaid enrollment is higher or lower than HHS predicted, . . . but in any case he is happy to be paying higher taxes to provide the 70,000 new enrollees in Oregon health care, . . . at least until more doctors decline to see medicaid patients. because of decreasing reimbursements.
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Originally posted by: hoops2
Oregon does have one big success to brag about. The state has enrolled 70,000 people in Medicaid, reducing the ranks of the uninsured by more than 10 percent.

WOW 70,000 people signed up for a program that the govt will have to pay 100% of the cost - real success story. Another problem - most doctors don't accept Medicaid.

And another 18,000 have submitted paper applications for private insurance:

I believe these applications eventually have to be entered into the nonfunctioing computer system


So your argument is uninsured people are better off uninsured than with Medicaid... give that to your 2016 candidate and let'em run with it.

And I see you live in the same bubble as all right wingers that believe somehow uninsured people dont cost taxpayers any money. Give that talking point to your 2016 candidate too.

It will be difficult to beat the circus of the 2012 Presidential Primary but your talking pioints will put them on the right track!

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Thank You, Don Diego, for explaining the financial consequences of the ACA in the event of nobody signing up...like ever.

DonDiego accepts pjstroh's thanks.

However, pjstroh's characterization that DonDiego's explanation applies only if "nobody ever" signs up is inaccurate. Nonetheless, DonDiego enjoyed the phrase "like ever"; it is so Valley Girl.
It is nice to know that the Insurance Companies will not pay the price for the abomination known as the Affordable Care Act, or as the originator prefers for it to be called, Obamacare. Possibly those imbeciles that voted for the Liar-in-Chief are starting to realize just what a mistake it was and is to have voted for this Socialist. I see that Nancy Pelosi has once again started up spewing her lies about her fellow Democrats supporting the Obamacare farce. Everyday new evidence and actual facts emerge about the lying and scheming that has gone into the creation of the ACA and as to how it will be funded. The next few months will clear up much of the B.S. and smoke that has shrouded Obamacare. Meanwhile, stay tuned for more word twisting and distortion of the facts by chilcoot, forkush, number 51, and melonhead.
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Originally posted by: DonDiego

Unfortunately nothing is free.

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Nonsense. Under DonDiego-care we got 42 Billion Dollars a year in free healthcare for the uninsured.
It will be difficult to beat the circus of the 2012 Presidential Primary but your talking pioints will put them on the right track

obama'a approval rating is down to 41%. All the democrats who voted for this will have a tough time hiding from it

People who sign up for medicaid are going to expect medical services and will find out that there is nobody to provide it.

The key components of this program is not working as promised
"Nonsense. Under DonDiego-care we got 42 Billion Dollars a year in free healthcare for the uninsured. "

I am skeptical about the study that PJ references since it a study by a group that believes in more govt spending. It is very likely they started with their conclusion and worked backwards
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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Nonsense. Under DonDiego-care we got 42 Billion Dollars a year in free healthcare for the uninsured. "

I am skeptical about the study that PJ references since it a study by a group that believes in more govt spending. It is very likely they started with their conclusion and worked backwards


I'll give you the USA Today doesn't hold much weight of integrity compared to the sources used on this board by the other side....like James O'Keefe, for example. But since DrMilled and Don Diego run away every time I raise the issue perhaps Hoops can help us all out by showing how the cumulative cost of uninsured was dealt with in our system prior to Obamacare.

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