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There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

Dan Svatass
Dan Svatass
Nov 18, 2013
6:31am
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Originally posted by: Campion
It says right in the subtitle of the article that "Once considered a leader, Oregon's insurance exchange still hasn't enrolled anyone"

THEY are stating that. Not me.





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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Here's what Campion wrote about Oregon:
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Originally posted by: Campion
Seems that my home state is still stuck at ZERO sign-ups.
And Campion's right.

If you ignore the 88,000 who've signed up, according to the story Campion posted but did not read. Apparently they don't count, somehow.
A friendly note to Campion:

Headlines are brief. They don't tell the whole story. That's why the print all those other words below the headline and subhead. You know, the actual story

In Oregon, some 88,000 people have signed up for insurance offered through Obamacare. Not "ZERO", as you claimed. How do I know this? Well, I read a newspaper story you posted, that's how.

Sure, none of them went through the state's terrible website. But they did sign up. Which you would have known if you had a "read newspaper article before posting it" policy.
Campion
Campion
Nov 18, 2013
6:33am
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Ok, thanks



Quote
Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Quote
Originally posted by: Campion
It says right in the subtitle of the article that "Once considered a leader, Oregon's insurance exchange still hasn't enrolled anyone"

THEY are stating that. Not me.





Quote
Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Here's what Campion wrote about Oregon:
Quote
Originally posted by: Campion
Seems that my home state is still stuck at ZERO sign-ups.
And Campion's right.

If you ignore the 88,000 who've signed up, according to the story Campion posted but did not read. Apparently they don't count, somehow.
A friendly note to Campion:

Headlines are brief. They don't tell the whole story. That's why the print all those other words below the headline and subhead. You know, the actual story

In Oregon, some 88,000 people have signed up for insurance offered through Obamacare. Not "ZERO", as you claimed. How do I know this? Well, I read a newspaper story you posted, that's how.

Sure, none of them went through the state's terrible website. But they did sign up. Which you would have known if you had a "read newspaper article before posting it" policy.


BobOrme
BobOrme
Nov 18, 2013
9:37am
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
I haven't had health insurance in years, and it hasn't cost anyone else a dime. You appear to be blind to the fact that some people without insurance pay for their own health care out of their own pockets.
Are you really so wealthy that you could pay for every malady that could come your way?

As a human being, you may get end-stage renal disease. It costs the average sufferer $173,000 to treat. Can you afford that?

You also might get cancer and need surgery or chemotherapy. That costs $123,000 on average.

Maybe you'll lose the ability to breathe on your own and will be put on a ventilator. I'm sure you're not average, but if you were, that'd be $314,000.

If you have the ability to afford these expenses, that's pretty impressive.

I suspect, however, that in reality you'll rely on a combination of emergency room care, public assistance, and bankruptcy, shifting the cost onto the rest of society like the good socialist everyone becomes when faced with crushing, unavoidable debt.


It must really bother you that some people pay their own way.
Dan Svatass
Dan Svatass
Nov 18, 2013
10:45am
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Originally posted by: BobOrmeIt must really bother you that some people pay their own way.

Not in the least.

What bothers me is that you pretend you can't get sick or hit by a bus, then leave your family, your friends, and the rest of society with some huge bill because you can't pay it.

I guess it's because I'm not an irresponsible sort with no sense of obligation to others.

If you can get health insurance, you should.

BobOrme
BobOrme
Nov 18, 2013
4:23pm
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrmeIt must really bother you that some people pay their own way.

Not in the least.

What bothers me is that you pretend you can't get sick or hit by a bus, then leave your family, your friends, and the rest of society with some huge bill because you can't pay it.

I guess it's because I'm not an irresponsible sort with no sense of obligation to others.

If you can get health insurance, you should.


Thank you Chilbama! No matter how much an individual is responsible for their own life, they are irresponsible because they aren't in a system that YOU choose FOR them.
jatki
jatki
Nov 18, 2013
8:43pm
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Its my guess that the overwhelmingly people that will be swelling the medicaid roles are her illegaly. Somehow I doubt thats anything the pro obamacare powers will be spouting in the next election as something to brag or be proud of. Saying that 42 people signed up for insurance and 18,000 got on medicaid in the same state is a success is ludicrous.

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Orderly
Orderly
Nov 18, 2013
10:04pm
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Originally posted by: jatki99
Its my guess that the overwhelmingly people that will be swelling the medicaid roles are her illegaly.




Politifact rates claims that illegal immigrants can get either insurance or medicare under Obamacare as
hoops2
hoops2
Nov 18, 2013
10:46pm
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From politifact

"But none of it applies to people who are here illegally. They don’t have to follow the mandate because they shouldn’t be here. They remain ineligible for regular Medicaid coverage, just as they are ineligible for food stamps"

Pants on fire for them because illegals while ineligible do wind up getting medicaid & food stamps, as well as other benefits. In addition the admin has already admitted they will not be able to verify the applications, so the potential for fraud is there.
Don
Don
Nov 18, 2013
10:59pm
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The Walt Disney Company is apparently planning a Barack Obama biopic:

Tutontow
Tutontow
Nov 18, 2013
11:39pm
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Quote
Originally posted by: BobOrme
I haven't had health insurance in years, and it hasn't cost anyone else a dime. You appear to be blind to the fact that some people without insurance pay for their own health care out of their own pockets.
Are you really so wealthy that you could pay for every malady that could come your way?

As a human being, you may get end-stage renal disease. It costs the average sufferer $173,000 to treat. Can you afford that?

You also might get cancer and need surgery or chemotherapy. That costs $123,000 on average.

Maybe you'll lose the ability to breathe on your own and will be put on a ventilator. I'm sure you're not average, but if you were, that'd be $314,000.

If you have the ability to afford these expenses, that's pretty impressive.

I suspect, however, that in reality you'll rely on a combination of emergency room care, public assistance, and bankruptcy, shifting the cost onto the rest of society like the good socialist everyone becomes when faced with crushing, unavoidable debt.


We have a frequent visitor here who has had over 16 million dollars of health care.
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