There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

Actually, no, there was a system in place that Obamacare replaces. Don't pretend that there isn't an outgoing system that we've all been stuck in. There was, and it sucked.

In that old system, irresponsible people like BobOrme who could afford health insurance but were too cheap and too dumb to get it would get sick or hit by a bus, show up at the emergency room, get lots of expensive treatment, be unable to pay the bill, and go bankrupt, leaving everyone else to shoulder the expense.

I am sick and tired of the BobOrme's of the world shirking their responsibility to pay for their own health care. That's one of the many reasons we passed Obamacare, to get everyone contributing to the care we all expect (even if we won't say so out loud).

As taxpayers and insurance customers we've definitely paid a lot of money to keep jatki99 alive as he deals with his end stage renal disease and other maladies. $16 million? I didn't know it was that much, wow.

I'm glad I contribute to his care, and I know that if poor health had visited one of us instead that he would be glad to contribute to our care.

BobOrme, however, doesn't want the responsibility of being his brother's keeper, wants to go it all alone (until he inevitably gets sick and will surely demand we give him care, even though he's not willing to give it to others).

Q: How do you address the cumulative costs of the medically uninsured in this country?

A: There is no cumulative cost of the medically uninsured as proven by an individual story about one person.

Chilly to clarify my point, you were trying to show how Bob more than likely would go broke if he had a major illness, I was just trying to show that in todays world your bills can go well beyond 100 or 200K. Jatki is a prime example of a responsible person who paid for insurance and more than likely is damn glad he did.

I transported people everyday that could afford all kinds of things but they never once thought of paying for healthcare because they knew we couldn't refuse transport and the ER would have to treat them.

Goodness ! Chilcoot seems to know an awful lot about BobOrme, . . . even beyond his insurance preferences.

Just a cautionary note:
"It ain't ignorance causes so much trouble; it's folks knowing so much that ain't so."
__Josh Billings

Actually, right here on this forum, BobOrme revealed the name of a drug he takes, and the price. So he's not exactly a cipher.

Yes, totally agree. And it's a point we can't make often enough.

It's all well and good to have a healthy fantasy life and think that we're immune from the reality of the human condition. Perhaps we believe we are a cowboy out riding the range, or a pirate looking for buried treasure, or the pilot of a spaceship. All great fantasies.

But in our waking moments, we should realize that we're made of flesh and blood, and that our bodies are not immune to disease or damage. And some kinds of disease and damage are very expensive to heal, often beyond our means to afford. And so, if we can, we get health insurance, and make sure it's good enough to cover us.

Now maybe BobOrme is fabulously wealthy and can afford the best of care without insurance. I doubt it, he's described himself as a former stock car pit crewmember and a former pool hall manager. All fine occupations, but not the sorts of things that typically lead to great wealth.

But maybe he is crazy rich. Is it really too much to require him to also buy insurance, insurance that (1) will pay for his own care if need be, and (2) contribute towards the care of others.

Sure, maybe he'll live to 100 and never get a cough. But wouldn't he want to be part of a system that can do so much good for the less fortunate, and will replace a health care system that's truly one of the worst in the developed world? Cubans justifiably laugh at our outgoing health care system. Cubans!

Well, apparently for BobOrme, it is too much to ask. Sad, really. Hope you never get sick, Bob, be well.

That's better.

In related news, . . . on 18 November 2013 President Obama told supporters on a conference call: “In the first month alone we’ve seen more than 100 million Americans successfully enroll in the new insurance plans.”

Uh, . . . OH! DonDiego thinks he might be detecting delusions of grandeur in America's current President.

" . . . the president got on the conference call to enlist his legions of grass-roots activists to help herd Americans onto the ObamaCare rolls.
The call was set up by Organizing for Action [formerly: Obama for America], his political campaign that now promotes his presidential agenda."
Ref: The New York Post