There you go conservatives: Obamacare is failing

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: Tutontow
If someone is wealthy, lets say net worth over 10 million dollars, are they required to buy auto insurance? I'm just curious because if the answer is no why can't they be self insured?
There are a few states that allow people to self-insure their auto coverage. Apparently California, Tennessee, Washington, Texas and Ohio drivers can drive without insurance.

California requires drivers to have liability insurance, with a minimum of $15,000 in coverage for the injury or death of one person, $30,000 for more than one person, and $5,000 for property damage. In lieu of that, a California driver who doesn't want to buy car insurance can make a $35,000 cash deposit with the California Department of Motor Vehicles, post a surety bond for $35,000 or get a self-insurance certificate from the DMV.

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Anyone who thinks 35k is going to protect them if they kill or seriously injure someone is a total fool.

..And the hits just keep on comin'...

Obamacare bombshell: IT official says HealthCare.gov needs payment feature

"We still need to build the payments system to make the payments [to insurance companies] in January," Chao said during testimony. That so-called financial management tool was originally supposed to be part of HealthCare.gov when it launched Oct. 1, but officials later suspended its launch as part of their effort to get the consumer interface part of the site ready.

Chao on Tuesday said other areas that need to be built include "the back-office systems, the accounting systems."

https://www.cnbc.com/id/101211556


Seriously? They don't even have functionality on a checkout button yet? I'd put a rotfl guy here right now, but it's it's really not funny anymore. What will tomorrow bring?

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Originally posted by: jatki99
YEA! start bringing up Obamacare at the dinner table over thanksgiving, better hope everyone 's in agreement or else it's could make for some testy holidays.

DonDiego will be spending his Thanksgiving among strangers in Motown.

But then DonDiego takes a philosophical view towards this sort of thing. After all, . . . isn't everyone a stranger until one meets them? And then they become an unpleasant acquaintance.

"The HealthCare.gov website is so problem-plagued that WellPoint Inc., the nation’s second-largest insurer, is backing away from advertising its new health-care offerings, its chief executive said Tuesday.
'I’ll be very candid, we have pulled back from marketing, not knowing how to get people enrolled at the moment,' Joseph Swedish, WellPoint’s chief executive, said in an interview at the WSJ CEO Council Tuesday.
Ref: Wall Street Journal

Now DonDiego understands why President Obama was so quick to back-off and "allow" the insurance companies to issue the previously evil, junk insurance policies for another year. The healthcare.gov website is only the visible problem.

__Testimony before Congress today revealed the whole Obamacare Information Technology System is only about half done, . . . and the done part includes the healthcare.gov website - the part that doesn't work !
__And none of it is secure; hackers can get any information entered into the system.
__The "back office systems, the accounting systems, the payment systems” still have to be built. i.e. There's no way to pay the insurance companies. [Oh wait, . . . DonDiego has an idea: the insurers can hire hackers to get the enrollee payments.]

So, the Government demanded the "junk policies", many of which their holders found quite adequate, . . .because they were quite adequate for their holders' needs, . . . be cancelled as of 31 December 2013. So they were.
What if the Government cannot get the new, improved, slicker, faster, cooler, Obamanized policies issued by 1 January 2014.

Somebody's gonna get hosed !!!
__Maybe it'll be folks who's insurance got cancelled who get ill following ingestion of tainted canapes at a New Years Eve party just after midnight on January 1 2014, without insurance.
__Maybe it'll be the insurance companies who somehow are held responsible for cancelled policies, . . . unless everything can just be restored to what it used to be by 1 January. What if the insurers don't want to re-issue them? What if the insured don't want their policy back?
__DonDiego wagers it's gonna be the taxpayers who'll have to pay for most of this incompetent managerial catastrophe.


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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Cubans justifiably laugh at our outgoing health care system."

But yet they will get on makeshift rafts to come here
Excellent point.

Even in a nation as god awful as Cuba, and it's definitely god awful, they've managed to develop a healthcare system that has outperforms ours in significant ways. Well put.


I am sure when chilly gets sick he will fly to Cuba to be healed
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Originally posted by: hoops2
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Cubans justifiably laugh at our outgoing health care system."

But yet they will get on makeshift rafts to come here
Excellent point.

Even in a nation as god awful as Cuba, and it's definitely god awful, they've managed to develop a healthcare system that has outperforms ours in significant ways. Well put.


I am sure when chilly gets sick he will fly to Cuba to be healed
Some Americans have actually committed crimes so that they could get adequate health care in prison hospitals. You must be so proud of your country. And our 51st place in infant mortality: how pro-life!

. . . from The Adventures of HHS Secretary Kathleen Sibelius:

" . . . the secretary [Sibelius] met Carmen Salerno who was trying to sign up online. As the secretary and Salerno made small talk, CBS4?s Brian Andrews noticed the site crash on the lap top in front of them.
'The screen says I’m sorry but the system is temporarily down,' Andrews pointed out. 'Uh oh,' responded the secretary. 'That happens every day,' said Salerno, 'it must mean a lot of people are on there trying to get coverage'.”

Ref: CBS 4 Miami

Or it could mean the the HHS Secretary "invested" several-hundred-million-dollars in a website program that doesn't work.
"And our 51st place in infant mortality: how pro-life!"

As usual with forky stats the devil is in the details.

Infant mortality is measured differently in every country. The US is the only country that counts premature baby deaths (they have the highest death rate) in the mortality rate. Other countries don't count deaths within a few hours; the US does.

If every country used the US metric the US would shoot to the top.



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Originally posted by: hoops2
"And our 51st place in infant mortality: how pro-life!"

As usual with forky stats the devil is in the details.

Infant mortality is measured differently in every country. The US is the only country that counts premature baby deaths (they have the highest death rate) in the mortality rate. Other countries don't count deaths within a few hours; the US does.

If every country used the US metric the US would shoot to the top.
Now observe as hoops2 fails to provide any source for his make-believe bullshit.

I, on the other hand, cited the CIA Factbook, above, which is very reliable. As the CIA Factbook states, the data represents all deaths of children before they turn one year old, without regard to what country the baby died in:

This entry gives the number of deaths of infants under one year old in a given year per 1,000 live births in the same year

Obviously, not a lot of babies make it to their first birthday then die from being born premature.

I'll also cite a report by the Congressional Research Service from last year, which debunked the argument that hoops2 fell for:

"Researchers conclude that international recording differences do not explain the relatively high U.S. IMR."

Hmm, who to believe. The Central Intelligence Agency and the Congressional Research Service, or hoops2 lol.

The problem with America's looney right (Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, Steve King, hoops2 etc.) is that they have no ability to perceive reality. Their heads are completely clogged with bullshit, and sometimes it leaks out here.

https://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20091103/preemies-raise-us-infant-mortality-rate[/L]

The high percentage of preterm babies is the main cause of the high infant mortality rate in the U.S., the CDC says in a new report.

The U.S. “does a good job of saving babies when they are born preterm,” Marian F. MacDorman, PhD, of the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, tells WebMD. “The problem we have is prevention, preventing that preterm birth, and that’s where we are in trouble, I think.”

Based on 2005 data, one in eight births in the U.S. was preterm, compared with one in 18 in Ireland and Finland, says the report in the CDC’s NCHS Data Brief No. 23.


So why is our preemie rate higher in the US? Maybe it is because we try to save children instead of letting them die (and not counting them) and / or a high rate of mothers who abuse substances during pregnancy?
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