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Originally posted by: DonDiegoQuote
Originally posted by: arshaleign
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Originally posted by: BobOrme ...Background checks wouldn't have any affect on convicted felons. It is already illegal for them to possess firearms...
Is that what they're telling you on the AM radio?
Currently...
Convicted Bad Guy: I'd like to buy the the Adam Lanza special.
Gun Dealer: Here ya go.
With background checks...
Convicted Bad Guy: I'd like to buy the Adam Lanza special.
Gun Dealer: You can take delivery as soon as your background check is complete.
Convicted Bad Guy (or terrorist): Never mind.
Tell the truth Bob; you heard that line on AM radio, right?
Ahhhh, . . . AM radio. DonDiego remembers as an adolescent lying in bed listening to Jean Shepard out of WOR New York, spinning yarns and painting word-pictures of a better-than-real America. Then he'd fall asleep, . . . calmly. That's DonDiego who'd fall asleep, not Jean Shepard.
But, DonDiego digresses.
Here's the deal, background checks already have no effect on gun seeking felons, because they do not engage in commerce with legitimate licensed firearms dealers who already perform background checks. They go to "'Big Mike-down-the-street' who can get get ya' what ya' need."
In fact, the Federal background check scenario which arshaleign [
AKA forkush] describes is the requirement
right now. From arshaleign's [
AKA forkush's] own reference: "U.S. federal law requires persons engaged in interstate firearm commerce, or those who are 'engaged in the business' of dealing firearms, to hold a Federal Firearms License and perform background checks through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System maintained by the FBI prior to transferring a firearm." Convicted bad guys know this so they do not engage in commerce with gun dealers now.
Also from arshaleign's [
AKA forkush's] reference: "Under the terms of the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 . . . individuals 'not engaged in the business' of dealing firearms, or who only make 'occasional' sales within their state of residence, are under no requirement to conduct background checks on purchasers or maintain records of sale (although even private sellers are forbidden under federal law from selling firearms to persons they have reason to believe are felons or otherwise prohibited from purchasing firearms)."
So, if Congress institutes "universal background checks" the bad guys will continue to
not go to a licensed gun dealer as they do not now for their required firearms. They will continue to go to the unlicensed neighborhood entrepreneur engaged in trafficking legal and illegal firearms, who will, as today, not require a background check. The only difference under a "universal" background check is that such "private" transactions which may be legal now would be illegal.
BobOrme made an excellent point. In the City of Chicago it is presently illegal to sell or purchase any firearm. In spite of this ban, DonDiego asserts an occasional firearm transaction transpires.
