Washington native americans

I wonder how long that particular piece of BS has been circulating in your family. Four hundred years is a helluva lot more than ten generations.

And the poll of self-identified people of Native Americans descent is a crock. That Burt Reynolds might not be offended, or that Miley Cyrus might not be offended, or that Cher - or you! - might not be offended, really isn't that pertinent, is it?

A prettty good analysis of why that decade-old Annenburg survey doesn't have much meaning in 2014.

Stuff like
* the survey used landline-only phones at a time when fewer than half of Native Americans on reservations HAD landlines; and
* how there's a lot more people who claim some Native American ancestry but aren't Native American in any meaningful sense (Nancy Reagan, Brad Pitt, Kathie Lee Gifford).

Attitudes change. In 1978, only 34% of Americans said they approved of interracial marriage. More recently, there's been a revolution of thought about marriage equality.

The league is still giving Snyder a little rope to cling to his offensive team name. It won't last forever, and this battle will also be won.

DonDiego thanks forkushV for correcting any incorrect impression which others may have held that poor old DonDiego may have lynched someone. In fact, he has not, . . . and plans no such unpleasantness in the future.
And although DonDiego never kept anyone away from a whites-only drinking fountain, he is old enough to have observed them. One time when DonDiego was a little boy his mother took him and his brother to the mom&pop shoe store, . . . most stores back then were mom%pop, . . . on 3rd Street in Bethlehem for new shoes. This is the same shoe store about which DonDiego has written where he would look at his little feet and toes in his new shoes in an eerie green light inside an x-ray machine which was subsequently judged dangerous and may yet be the cause of DonDiego demise from x-ray induced cancerous tumors at some future date. But DonDiego digresses.
After his Mom bought the shoes, . . . DonDiego observed his brother drinking from the "Coloreds Only" drinking fountain at the back of the store. He laughed, and his brother hit him. Funny how things stay with one for no particular reason.

Anyway, it is all cool now. DonDiego thanks forkushV for asking.

If that is a photoshopped photograph DonDiego suggests Chilcoot identify it as such. If it is not DonDiego respectively requests a reference to its authenticity.

DonDiego notes in either case this has nothing to do with the subject of the Washington Redskins.

It should prompt a record number of clicks to "Report this to a Moderator."

Since the American Indians approved of the name "Redskins" when Washington first approved the name, I don't see what the problem is. Since they've gone under that name since about the 1930's....that's 80 years.....why has it become a problem now?

Do I really have to stop treating this guy as a modestly-informed person with a loose command of the obvious?



Sometimes, stuff that had an offensive name for a long time gets a new name. Rick Perry's hunting ranch, for example.

"Political Correctness" and the "Industry of being Offended".

Re: The Washington Redskins Issue
"After all, neither individuals nor teams give themselves names that they consider insulting, whether they are calling themselves Indians, Vikings, or the Fighting Irish."
Ref: The Business of Being Offended

Here is an email sent to Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune after an article he published concerning a name change for the Washington Redskins.

Dear Mr. Page...

I always love your articles and I generally agree with them. I would suggest, as in an email I received, they change the name to the "Foreskins" to better represent their community, paying tribute to the dick heads in Congress.

Here are some other politically correct issues to consider: I agree with our Native American population. I am highly insulted by the racially charged name of the Washington Redskins. One might argue that to name a professional football team after Native Americans would exalt them as fine warriors, but nay, nay. We must be careful not to offend, and in the spirit of political correctness and courtesy, we must move forward. Let's ditch the Kansas City Chiefs, the Atlanta Braves and the Cleveland Indians. If your shorts are in a wad because of the reference the name Redskins makes to skin color, then we need to get rid of the Cleveland Browns.

The Carolina Panthers obviously were named to keep the memory of militant Blacks from the 60's alive. Gone. It's offensive to us white folk.

The New York Yankees offend the Southern population. Do you see a team named for the Confederacy? No! There is no room for any reference to that tragic war that cost this country so many young men's lives.

I am also offended by the blatant references to the Catholic religion among our sports team names. Totally inappropriate to have the New Orleans Saints, the Los Angeles Angels or the San Diego Padres.

Then there are the team names that glorify criminals who raped and pillaged. We are talking about the horrible Oakland Raiders, the Minnesota Vikings,the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates!

Now, let us address those teams that clearly send the wrong message to our children. The San Diego Chargers promote irresponsible fighting or even spending habits. Wrong message to our children.

The New York Giants and the San Francisco Giants promote obesity, a growingchildhood epidemic. Wrong message to our children.

The Cincinnati Reds promote downers/barbiturates . Wrong message to our children.

The Milwaukee Brewers---well that goes without saying . . . Wrong message to our children.

So, there you go. We need to support any legislation that comes outto rectify this travesty, because the government will likely become involved with this issue, as they should. Just the kind of thing the do-nothing congress loves . . .

As a die hard Oregon State fan, my wife and I, with all of this in mind, it might also make some sense to change the name of the Oregon State women's
athletic teams to something other than "the Beavers."

Keep those cards and letters coming.

Perhaps it is time for facts.

i. Chilcoot did not answer DonDiego's question about photoshopping, because the photo in question is, in fact, photoshopped. NO SUCH CARVED STONE SIGN EVER EXISTED.
Chilcoot's own Washington Post lift states: ". . . a place known by the name painted in block letters across a large, flat rock standing upright at its gated entrance.
'Niggerhead,' it read."
ii. In spite of the implication of the Washington Post, the Perry family did not own the hunting camp referred to.
iii. At some time prior to the Perry's hunting the land someone had painted the toponym "Niggerhead" on a rock along the trail; there is no evidence that the Perry family had anything to do with this.
iv. There is no evidence that the Perry family ever used the term "Niggerhead".
v. The term "Niggerhead" was once . . . often used for geographic features such as hills and rocks and geological objects such as geodes. In the U.S., more than a hundred "Niggerheads", and other place names now considered racially offensive, were changed in 1962 by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, but many local names remained unchanged. [Ref: wikipedia] The term had never been applied on an official map of the hunting camp so it did not have to be changed.
vi. If one googles the term "niggerhead topography" one will find many topological features with this name even today.
vii. Things change. Years ago the term was less objectionable than it is today. It even appeared on tourist souvenirs:

DonDiego opines the rock formation on the plate looks more like Howdy-Doody.
For the record, today even DonDiego finds the term objectionable. He does use the term or other variations of the "n-word". He does not endorse anyone using like terms. But that does not excuse those who accuse someone of cavalier use of like terms when there is no evidence, let alone proof that they have done so.

Chilcoot owes Rick Perry and the Perry family an apology. DonDiego does not expect to see one.