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If you want to vote for biden, consider the folowing

 

He claims he want to change Washington, but he has been there for 47 years & done nothing about it

If you are in favor of illegal immigration - vote biden

If you are in favor stopping deportations (including criminals) - vote biden

If you want higher taxes - vote biden

If you don't want the US to be energy independent thru programs such as fracking - vote biden

If you are in favor of exploding crime rates that democrats ignore - vote biden

If you are in favor of allowing repeat criminals out with no bail to commit more crimes - vote biden

If you think the solution to the 2 items above is to defund the police - vote biden

If you think it is ok to pack the Supreme Court - vote biden (who refuses to answer the question) 

And If you get Russian propoganda from Facebook then follow Tom  !

PJ - which of the above is incorrect?

Somebody please educate me about the "no bail" concept.  First of all, aren't local incarceration issues decided at the state level?  Somewhere I read that "no bail" actually provides for arrestees to be released sooner, because they don't have to  have met a dollar amount of "bail" to be released.  I'm sure I am mixed up on this.  Thanks.

 

Candy


Everything you say is incorrect.

 

Do you expect anyone to go through your idiot Republican talking points one by one and refute them? Why should anyone bother?

 

Note: I actually dignified you by doing exactly that a couple of weeks ago, and you just slunk away without acknowledging your defeat.

Edited on Oct 15, 2020 8:26am
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Somebody please educate me about the "no bail" concept.  First of all, aren't local incarceration issues decided at the state level?  Somewhere I read that "no bail" actually provides for arrestees to be released sooner, because they don't have to  have met a dollar amount of "bail" to be released.  I'm sure I am mixed up on this.  Thanks.

 

Candy


"No bail," at least in the states where such ballot initiatives are being considered, is really "no cash bail for those who can't afford it." The idea is that unless a defendant poses a flight risk, the default setting should be to release him until the day of the trial.

 

The impetus is the idea that a person who spends time in jail pre-trial is less equipped to put up a good defense, and thus, poor people tend to have worse outcomes--more convictions, longer sentences--than those who are able to afford bail and have ample time to consult with a lawyer, etc.

 

It is, of course, opposed by people who scream that liberal bail policies equate to "putting criminals back on the streets!!!!!!!!!", ignoring the fact that someone accused of a crime isn't a criminal in the eyes of the law.

 

And yes, this sort of thing is usually decided at the state level, though it could also turn out to be a federal law. Historically, the federal government has been reluctant to tell state courts what to do.

"Somebody please educate me about the "no bail" concept.  First of all, aren't local incarceration issues decided at the state level?  "

 

According to Politico, Biden came out in favor of no bail during the primaries.

 

In NY there is no bail for almost every type of felony.  Ability to pay has no bearing.  People are arrested & released the same day & rearrested within a few days.

 

NYC crime has skyrocketed since this law was enacted on 1/1/20.

"Everything you say is incorrect."

 

Prove it. 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

"No bail," at least in the states where such ballot initiatives are being considered, is really "no cash bail for those who can't afford it." The idea is that unless a defendant poses a flight risk, the default setting should be to release him until the day of the trial.

 

The impetus is the idea that a person who spends time in jail pre-trial is less equipped to put up a good defense, and thus, poor people tend to have worse outcomes--more convictions, longer sentences--than those who are able to afford bail and have ample time to consult with a lawyer, etc.

 

It is, of course, opposed by people who scream that liberal bail policies equate to "putting criminals back on the streets!!!!!!!!!", ignoring the fact that someone accused of a crime isn't a criminal in the eyes of the law.

 

And yes, this sort of thing is usually decided at the state level, though it could also turn out to be a federal law. Historically, the federal government has been reluctant to tell state courts what to do.


Thank you, Kevin.  That is pretty much what I thought I had read.  So "no bail" doesn't mean what it sounds like, as in being sure that a perp would never get out of jail/prison until a sentence had been served. 

 

And I get the revolving door--arrested, immediate release with a court date, repeat of crimes committed (petty or worse) while out, arrested again, released again, more (possibly escalating) crime, etc.  Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

So, does one party or the other favor more "no bail" initiatives by states, and how much influence does a sitting POTUS have over that?

Originally posted by: tom

"Everything you say is incorrect."

 

Prove it. 


Because YOU demand it? Hahahahaha.

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