Corporations now have religious freedom

So he's saying that certain religious beliefs are more equal than other beliefs. I guess Christianist beliefs trump 7th Day Adventist beliefs for Alito. And you agree with that?

Does anyone here agree with that?

This ruling hinges on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which was passed in 1993 to redress an earlier court ruling against Native Americans who’d used the hallucinogen peyote as part of a religious ceremony.

Ironically, that Supreme Court ruling was written by Justice Antonin Scalia, while the RFRA passed in response was supported by Sen. Harry Reid and signed into law by President Bill Clinton.
The law’s purpose was to give broader protections to religious freedom.

If the government wants to impose a rule that substantially burdens an American’s free exercise of religion, the law says, it not only has to have a compelling interest, it has to use the least-restrictive means possible.

By contrast, the president seems to make a habit of forcing people to pay for his preferences.
In this case, he threatened to crush anyone who objected with huge fines — running to $475 million a year for Hobby Lobby alone. Writing for the majority, Justice Samuel Alito observed that if these fines “do not amount to a substantial burden, it’s hard to see what would.”

Yet again, hoops2 cuts and pastes from a copyrighted article and pretends he was the one who wrote its properly-spelled, grammatically-correct words.

This time he's just copying an editorial from today's New York Post, one of the mouths on Rupert Murdoch's right wing noise machine.







Why should hoops2 think for himself when Rupert Murdoch will do it for him? Stay classy, hoops2.

I didn't say I agree or disagree with this decision. All I'm sayin' is your specific 'what if' regarding "Vaccinations" and "Blood Transfusions" was directly addressed as a non starter as part of the majority opinion. So basically I was just pointing out your error. Carry on.

If I held the belief that I should be allowed to kill Liberals because of non-religious beliefs, does Forkie believe that these beliefs carry more or less weight than religious beliefs?

You miss forkie's point. I agree with his sentiment. I work with a Jehovah Witness. They don't believe in blood transfusions any more than these Hobby Lobby folks believe in contraception.

Is the issue that Hobby Lobby's religion is more mainstream than JH or is it that contraception is less medically required than blood transfusions.

On September 12, 2013, Dell stockholders approved the proposal in which Michael Dell, Dell’s Founder, Chairman and CEO, will acquire Dell in partnership with global technology investment firm Silver Lake Partners. The merger transaction closed on October 29, 2013, and the company has commenced the process to delist its common shares from the NASDAQ Stock Market. Per the merger agreement, Dell shareholders are entitled to receive $13.75 in cash, in addition to a special dividend of $0.13 per common share.


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That's just a bit more than 6 people....

Actually the issue is not whether women will get the coverage, but who will pay for the coverage. When Obama exempted certain religious non-profit groups from paying for female contraceptive coverage he opened the door to this ruling. In those situations, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES were then required to cover, without cost sharing, contraception coverage for female employees.

The Supremes reason that there is no real difference between a for profit and a non profit company. They both have workers who may or may not support the religious beliefs of ownership or management. Therefore, if Obama wishes coverage to be extended that goes against the religious beliefs of corporate ownership, he can simply order the insurance companies to pay for it.....AS HE HAS DONE IN THE PAST.

It was made very clear that this is a narrow ruling covering only 4 specific methods of birth control. Most important: "The court is not ruling on whether women have the right to obtain no-cost contraception, only that the employer isn't the only one who can pay for that coverage."

So, if the ruling is eventually expanded to include "Blood Transfusions" Obama only needs to make the insurance companies pay for it JUST AS HE HAS DONE BEFORE. If the insurance companies lose money he can give them more money. That way it's free for everyone! The religious zealots don't have to pay for something they find abhorrent, Snidely still gets his much needed Blood Transfusion or Birth Control (oops sorry doesn't apply to men), and the insurance companies soak the government for the difference. Everybody wins.

Even hoops2 cuts and pastes better than that.

Liberal Alan Dershowitz calls the decision very insignificant. But, it gives the progressive nuts a chance to yell WAR ON WOMEN!!!! They'll soon turn their attention to looking for an excuse to yell WAR ON GAYS!!!!. Or WAR ON MINORITIES!!!! Or WAR ON WOMEN!!!! again.

Why should a family start from nothing, build a multi-billion dollar business over decades, employ thousands of people and be forced to check their religious beliefs at the company doors just because some politicians need a chance to yell WAR ON WOMEN!!!! to help with the next election?

Hobby Lobby founders have the freedom to practice their religious beliefs and anyone that works for them and doesn't like it has the freedom to find another job if they so choose. A win-win for everybody!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/07/01/dershowitz_hobby_lobby_decision_is_monumentally_insignificant.html