Vegas Free-for-All - Corporations now have religious freedom

Corporations now have religious freedom

malibber2

Jul 2, 2014
11:55am

You guys don't get it. I am not saying anyone can force an employee to do anything. However, now all sorts of bad behavior by employers can be excused as a religious opting out. In other words in the hypothetical I was constructing yes the young ladies could always say no or walk out the door, but then I could fire them without fear of any legal consequences to myself. As I declared orgies part of my corporation's deeply held religious belief. So as boss man I would just have to make sure I hired young ladies that couldn't afford to lose their jobs and my little scheme would have a high chance of success.

Dan Svatass

Jul 2, 2014
12:07pm

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Originally posted by: chefantwon
Oh Forkster, Cargill has 140,000+ owners (mainly employees) that's a bit more than 6 linky.

chefantwon doesn't understand.

The term "closely-held" does not depend on how many owners there are. A closely-held corporation is one where up to five people together own more than half of the company's stock value. The McMillan-Cargill family meets that standard.

Don't listed to chefantwon: Just like Hobby Lobby, Cargill is a closely-held corporation, making Cargill's 47,000 US workers potentially subject to the same religion-related perils that Hobby Lobby's employees are.

malibber2

Jul 2, 2014
12:11pm

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If I wanted to hang my hat on a traditional Christian religious belief as boss to coerce my female employees I could simply invoke my Droit du seigneur or if I wanted a one nighter with a specific employee my jus primae noctis.

jatki

Jul 2, 2014
1:06pm

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Originally posted by: malibber2
You guys don't get it. I am not saying anyone can force an employee to do anything. However, now all sorts of bad behavior by employers can be excused as a religious opting out. In other words in the hypothetical I was constructing yes the young ladies could always say no or walk out the door, but then I could fire them without fear of any legal consequences to myself. As I declared orgies part of my corporation's deeply held religious belief. So as boss man I would just have to make sure I hired young ladies that couldn't afford to lose their jobs and my little scheme would have a high chance of success.

Well I suggest you try it then Mal, see how quickly you get your ass sued off.

I still say your little hypothetical has absolutely nothing to do with this case tho.

malibber2

Jul 2, 2014
1:12pm

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There are already several "for profit religious corporations" gearing up to opt out of anti-discrimination laws as they apply to gays.

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Originally posted by: jatki99

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Originally posted by: malibber2
You guys don't get it. I am not saying anyone can force an employee to do anything. However, now all sorts of bad behavior by employers can be excused as a religious opting out. In other words in the hypothetical I was constructing yes the young ladies could always say no or walk out the door, but then I could fire them without fear of any legal consequences to myself. As I declared orgies part of my corporation's deeply held religious belief. So as boss man I would just have to make sure I hired young ladies that couldn't afford to lose their jobs and my little scheme would have a high chance of success.

Well I suggest you try it then Mal, see how quickly you get your ass sued off.

I still say your little hypothetical has absolutely nothing to do with this case tho.

jatki

Jul 2, 2014
1:26pm

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Originally posted by: malibber2
There are already several "for profit religious corporations" gearing up to opt out of anti-discrimination laws as they apply to gays.

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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: malibber2
You guys don't get it. I am not saying anyone can force an employee to do anything. However, now all sorts of bad behavior by employers can be excused as a religious opting out. In other words in the hypothetical I was constructing yes the young ladies could always say no or walk out the door, but then I could fire them without fear of any legal consequences to myself. As I declared orgies part of my corporation's deeply held religious belief. So as boss man I would just have to make sure I hired young ladies that couldn't afford to lose their jobs and my little scheme would have a high chance of success.

Well I suggest you try it then Mal, see how quickly you get your ass sued off.

I still say your little hypothetical has absolutely nothing to do with this case tho.

That'll be a tough sell. I'll give 3-1 odds they won't be successful altho I bet they'll have a better chance than your forced orgy scenario.

hoops2

Jul 3, 2014
1:28am

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"Don't listed to chefantwon: Just like Hobby Lobby, Cargill is a closely-held corporation, making Cargill's 47,000 US workers potentially subject to the same religion-related perils that Hobby Lobby's employees are. "

What peril? Employees will now have to pay for the morning after pill, where they used to get it for free

pjstroh

Jul 3, 2014
1:41am

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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Don't listed to chefantwon: Just like Hobby Lobby, Cargill is a closely-held corporation, making Cargill's 47,000 US workers potentially subject to the same religion-related perils that Hobby Lobby's employees are. "

What peril? Employees will now have to pay for the morning after pill, where they used to get it for free

Yes...and its based on policy that allows someone to come between you and your doctor. Hoops has an established record of protesting this principal...except...except....if its an employer doing it for their own religious reasons. Isn't the hypocrisy grand?

hoops2

Jul 3, 2014
2:10am

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Nobody is telling Hobby employees that they cannot use the morning after pill

pjstroh

Jul 3, 2014
3:43am

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Nobody is telling Hobby employees that they cannot use the morning after pill

They are determining the values of workers insurance policies. WORKERS INSURANCE POLICIES....not their own insurance policy.

Remember when Obamacare changed the nature of some insurance policies and Hoops had a fit for 6 months? I do to! And it seems pretty hilarious in retrospect.

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