I had a delightful conversation with a health Insurance company rep this morning

Something no one has asked is "How many insuranceless Americans typically have picked up insurance the following year?" I wouldn't be surprised if 10 million typically drop and 10 million typically add insurance.

Not to mention college kids on their parents' insurance.

The drop in uninsured is impressive on its own feet...and just think how much better that number would be if Red States expanded medicaid for the benefit of their working poor? No worries, that will happen in short order. I predict most states will have expanded Medicaid by the time Hillary Clinton takes the stage at inauguration.

In Kentucky, the uninsured rate has fallen 42 percent since Obamacare enrollment began last fall.

And 75 percent of the Kentuckians who bought private health insurance via the state's Obamacare exchange were previously uninsured.

These figures were for late March, before the surge of the final few days.

Observe as these facts, like all facts, bounce off the thick armor of denial worn by our President's critics.

I don't know there Forkster seems like this guy can present different figures WITHOUT 3rd party verfication.

Anyone who actually designs or works on web sites can typically tell you quite a few things typically BY THE SECOND unlike the administration.

Number of hits/unique hits
How many people who checked out and paid for the product
Breakout of shoppers on the site

This administration has done everything to manipulate the numbers and I will not believe a single word Obama says until every single "signup has been verified by a 3rd party.

Sorry, but this program doesn't work UNLESS there are enough young/healthly people paying FULL premiums to offset all of us older people and those on medicare.

Nope, even if young invincibles come at half the hoped for rate, the insurance companies still make money and it would probably only trigger 1 - 2% premium increases - according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

The bigger problem than not enough young folks enrolling is that too many chronically ill folks have enrolled (I include myself in that) I just got a bill for one of my wife's recent hospitalizations it was $125,000 for 28 days of treatment. I suspect there has to be a hell of a lot of healthy sign-ups to offset that.

Read the Krugman piece carefully. Here is the American English Translation: "Yes, of course we know that Obamacare is an overly complex piece of shit. But it's a lot better than the crap you used to have. So, shut up and be content with your shiny new turd. It's the best we could do without any support from the other side or upsetting our lobbyist masters."

I will not be content with my shiny new turd. I was promised a good fart.

DonDiego says: "Never trust a fart."

It seams to me that Liberals never consider a cost benifit analysis, but only the benifit.

Actually, liberals listened to the CBO which said the cost benefit is huge...and the CBO's revised analysis says its even hugerererer.

But our resident conservatives only consider the CBO credible when it serves their argument....otherwise they leave it to the experts at Breitbart.com