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Proposing? I'm not proposing anything. I wanted to let Bob Dancer know what I found out and contrary to someone's comment I don't have a direct line to him. For the most part this entire thread was filled with bullshit from the usual critics.
When you use a word like proposing you make it seem I might be soliciting investors or selling something.
All of the info can be confirmed by calling or going to the casino.

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Proposing? I'm not proposing anything. I wanted to let Bob Dancer know what I found out and contrary to someone's comment I don't have a direct line to him. For the most part this entire thread was filled with bullshit from the usual critics.
When you use a word like proposing you make it seem I might be soliciting investors or selling something.
All of the info can be confirmed by calling or going to the casino.[/]

pro·pose  (pr-pz)
v. pro·posed, pro·pos·ing, pro·pos·es
v.tr.
1. To put forward for consideration, discussion, or adoption; suggest: propose a change in the law.
2. To recommend (a person) for a position, office, or membership; nominate.
3. To offer (a toast to be drunk).
4. To make known as one's intention; purpose or intend: proposed to buy and run a farm.
v.intr.
To form or make a proposal, especially of marriage.
[Middle English proposen, from Old French proposer, alteration (influenced by poser, to put, place) of Latin prpnere : pr-, forth; see pro-1 + pnere, to put; see apo- in Indo-European roots.]
pro·poser n.
Synonyms: propose, pose1, propound, submit
These verbs mean to present something for consideration or discussion: proposes a solution; posed many questions; propound a theory; submits a plan.

Wrong on all counts. I reported and proposed nothing.

I really don't see what all the hoopla is about. My local Harrahs frequently has promotions (contests) that benefit high rollers. Currently, there is an Eastern Caribbean Cruise Play to Win promotion.

Play at Harrah's Ak-Chin Casino Resort to win an exclusive 7-day cruise to the Eastern Caribbean.
Earn Your Cruise
*Get 1 entry for every Tier Credit earned from January 1, 2013 at 6am through March 24, 2013 at 6 am. The 20 participants with the highest earned entries automatically receive a cruise package. On Saturdays and the final weekend prior to the drawings, one can earn extra entries. One can receive 1 free entry by swiping at the total rewards center once between Jan 1 and March 23. On March 24, they'll announce the 20 cruise winners and have other drawings for either free slot play or a cruise.

My point is, the casino frequently has contests where one earns more entries when one plays more. Higher daily average will result in more weekly free slot play and other local promotions. If this is an advantage play, so be it. If not, no worries.

MissL7777 thanks for your post.

I want to point out something that is very interesting about your promotion at Ak-Chin and other casino promotions that offer a free entry. You wrote:

"One can receive 1 free entry by swiping at the total rewards center once between Jan 1 and March 23."

The reason for this is to get around the various state and federal anti-lottery laws. By offering at least one free entry to anyone (having a free players card still keeps the entry as free) means that these "play to win" contests are not lotteries since you don't have to play to enter.

Various companies that offer prizes such as McDonalds offer free entries without a purchase, and for the same purpose.

Nope, you are wrong. Read all the definitions and don't evade the meaning of my post.
Nobody supported your proposal. The real players here proved that.

i didnt get to see MLA's job proposal posts before he deleted them. by any chance, was he looking to hire someone to impersonate a yappy chihauhau on message boards?

So do you want to turn this into a twenty page argument over linguistics? Is that your goal treegirl?

When you "propose" something it is a call for action. Look at each of the definitions you offered.

I proposed no call for action. And while the original posts are not available here on this site, you know where you can see the original text. Take a look (if you care to) and see if anywhere there is a call to action? No where do I suggest that anyone play this. Nor do I suggest that I should play it. In fact, I don't even suggest that Bob Dancer play it.

What I asked was, is this the ultimate advantage play? And my question was answered by several who say it isn't and I accept that. I think I accurately presented all of the factors and others disagree.

Now getting back to your definitions of propose (for those who still care to continue reading) let's go over them one at a time:

"1. To put forward for consideration, discussion, or adoption; suggest: propose a change in the law."

Yes, I did put forward for discussion and consideration but the "call for action" as in the example "change in the law" was not part of anything I said. Again, the call for action is missing from my post.

"2. To recommend (a person) for a position, office, or membership; nominate."

Clearly #2 is not applicable.

"3. To offer (a toast to be drunk)."

Obviously #3 is not applicable.

"4. To make known as one's intention; purpose or intend: proposed to buy and run a farm."

And as I wrote above, I suggested no call to action which makes #4 not applicable.

What words would have been more appropriate? Well there are many including, "your comments," "your report," "your observation," "your claim," would all be more fitting to describe my post about this promotion at the casino.

But to use "propose" which is commonly considered to be a call for action, is incorrect.

Now, if I worked at the casino and said to the board of directors, "we should run this promotion and here are some of the elements of it" -- that would be a proposal.

But, if I worked at the casino and said to the board of directors, "hey if we run this promotion, some high rollers could dominate it and here's why" -- it would be an observation, an opinion, a report, a claim but it would not be a proposal.

If you made a stink over the term proposal in this context, I would not hire you. You would not work for my TV company. I would not make you a writer or editor or producer. And if you stuck by #1 in the definition that you presented I would call your thinking archaic.

And if you turn this into a twenty page fight over the use of the term "propose" then I will suggest that this forum has seen even new lower lows.

I don't think it qualified as a 'proposal' as there may not have been an actual 'call to action'. That being said, a chihauhau with your attitude would never work for my TV company.

Here is my quetion. You say this was posted here to alert Bob Dancer to this advantage play. I may not be remembering correctly, but in the first (now deleted) post, I think you actually wanted Bob Dancer to give his opinion. Has Bob Dancer ever once posted on the LVA Free For All? or mentioned that he reads it?